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Forum Post: 12 Reasons to Consider a Resource Based Economy

Posted 9 years ago on Oct. 11, 2011, 5:35 p.m. EST by Poplicola (125) from Jersey City, NJ
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  1. This system is no different than today's, minus the application of the scientific method. If you, through the scientific method, prove that your materials, system, or anything else is more efficient and effective than the current method then you will have your way. Just like today, if you prove through a business proposal that you will generate revenue and a profit, you can start that business.

  2. This system is not forced upon any peoples who don't wish to participate. We, in America have established a nation for, of, and by the people. If you don't like that, you can leave. Nothing different than today, minus the application of the scientific method to social welfare and economic efficiency.

  3. The difference between current "capitalism" and a resource based economy is that the officials have no incentive to fuck the people because everyone has equal access to all of the worlds resources through technological systems.

  4. Again, nothing is different than today's society minus the implementation of scientific method to the social welfare.

  5. The 14.8 trillion dollars of debt is your responsibility as a citizen living within the borders of the United States of America. Whether you personally take responsibility or not is not the question. The impending economic doom will be far worse than that of the Great Depression. I suggest we act swiftly to address this before it's too late.

  6. The central economic computer that manages a resource based economy makes no dictations. This computer merely manages the planetary resources. This is not communism. This is not socialism. This is not fascism. This is a resource based economy.

  7. In order to build anything, all that you really need is human capital and resources. In the next paradigm, money will not the basis for economic activity. Again, scientific method applied towards social welfare and optimal efficiency will provide the incentive for the users of this system. If every user in this system has equal access to all of the earth's resources, inequality becomes an idea of the past. No, not communism. The next generation of mankind. A generation of mankind that understand how to properly, efficiently, and effectively use technology.

  8. The government is governed for, of and by the people. These elected officials establish the goals of our society and apply scientific method to achieve these goals efficiently and effectively. All legislature is 100% based on the Constitution of the United States.

  9. Central economic planning in a resource based economy is not different than the central economic planning of the Federal Reserve, except we don't put our entire civilization into debt. We don't have debt. There is nothing intrinsically valid about debt - it's a game. All that we have are the natural resources of this planet.

  10. This is a democracy. We believe in state's rights. Each state is responsible to govern it's people. Not the Federal Government.

  11. The Federal Reserve has failed us. The Federal Reserve is a private bank that manipulates global currencies. The Federal Reserve is therfore unconstitutional. Tell me how else to eliminate the Fed without willingly putting this country into the Great Depression part two.

  12. We are not dictated by any computer. The economy is efficiently managed through a central computer system. The government is fully separated from the economy and governs for, of, and by the people.

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[-] 1 points by mindhawk (175) from Jefferson City, MO 9 years ago

I agree with gawd.

[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 9 years ago
  1. no use for a robo gawd.

  2. we don't need no robo gawd. managing planetary resources is best left to local self sufficient communities- not a computer.

the epic fails of a resource based economy as stated are too many and too big. The cult which proposed all of this is a totalitrian cult. While i agree in general principle with the idea of a resource based economy- the devil is in the details- and these are not the right details.


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[-] 1 points by Poplicola (125) from Jersey City, NJ 9 years ago

I'm not talk about a Zeitgeist economy. I'm talking about working towards a legitimate resource based economy as designed by Jacque Fresco.

[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 9 years ago

good distinction, same problem. Jaque fresco has three or five bachelors degrees and a very large pipe dream. He is ignorant of pretty much everything and his wordings unfortunately go cross to the understanding that science provides. If he bothered to actually pick up science like he says he has, he could rework the idea into meaningful science terms and drop the god bot, which is really just a control mechanism he put in place because of all the assorted problems he does not have real solutions for.

[-] 1 points by Poplicola (125) from Jersey City, NJ 9 years ago

I can't debate whether this will take hold within my life time, but I will tell you that if the planet lives long enough for me to have grand children, they will study his work.

[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 9 years ago

i don't think so, he doesn't have anything strong to say compared to Bill Mollison. There are too many evolutionary thinkers out there that aren't also half wingnuts. But it could be true. I hope for the best. All i am saying is here and now, i won't support "resource based economy" where thats got epic fail systemic flaws attached to it. I agree with the general gist of it. But not the assorted totalitarian stuff, and not the systemically impossible stuff.. etc.

We need to redefine what it is in a logical and science centered manner, or it dies, in essence, for OWS because i will be forced to shoot it down.

[-] 1 points by Poplicola (125) from Jersey City, NJ 9 years ago

If you have such a deep understanding of scientific method, and agree with the gist of a resource based economy perhaps you should be working on designing the system.

[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 9 years ago

on that note, check my links. Been there. done that.

[-] 1 points by Poplicola (125) from Jersey City, NJ 9 years ago

haha i'm going to read up on it soon. it's a lot of info to take in