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Forum Post: You want American Jobs - here's what needs to be done

Posted 12 years ago on Jan. 3, 2012, 9:41 p.m. EST by SteveKJR (-497)
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We need to put a "equilization tax" on all imports so that the price of an imported product will equal the price of a domestically made product.

The "equilization tax" then needs to be used to help companies who want to build manufacturing plants to produce goods made here in the United States.

We also need to impose a "export/import tax" on US companies who reside here in the United States,and use companies outside the United States to manufacturer goods to be imported here in the United States.

Revenues from these taxes can also be used to "build our infrastructure" and put people to work who are collecting welfare - to be supervised and trained by businesses here in the United States.

If we do this, there will be more American Jobs and more Americans will be put back to work.

The prices of products made here in the United States may be higher but the wages will also be higher to compensate for these higher prices.

By doing this, It will put "American Loyalty" back into the people who live in this country

We need to start being concerned about what's going on in this country instead of being forced into "buying chinese made products" that build their economy.

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[-] 2 points by FreedomsSpeech (-5) 12 years ago

Whoever wrote this post never took a basic economics class, nor have they read The Wealth of Nations. The use of tariffs ultimately makes all nations poorer, and increases market inefficiencies.

If you want to pay more for everything you buy, support an equalization tariff to subsidize products that we cannot produce more efficiently than elsewhere.

Tariffs make everyone less well off, both at home and abroad.

[-] 0 points by SteveKJR (-497) 12 years ago

Tariffs can work if they are designed to raise revenues and to support domestic production instead of encouraging American businesses to build plants outside the boundaries of the United States for the manufacturer and importation of cheap products into the United States.

China will subsidize foreign corporations (US Companies) to build and manufacturer in their country. As a result, they give away free land, and electricity to those manufacturing plants so that they can produce and export their products at much cheaper price.

It is supposed to be illegal to do this when it comes to competing on the international market but no one has yet to challange them on this issue.

Is this fair to the producers in this country who make the same product - no.

So a "tariff" can be an effective "equalizing" tool used to level the playing field when it comes to the importation of "cheap products".

[-] 1 points by philosophersstoned (233) from Gypsum, CO 12 years ago

6 banks represent 65% of US GDP... I dont know if the OP is the right solution or not, but an economy that doesn't produce anything except bullshit derivatives ponzi scheme trading can not survive. US needs to start producing again and put poeple to work, surely there are some policies that could be put in place to make it happen. But as long as those banks and other concentrated wealth interest are allowed to own political parties, Pres. candidates, congressmen, nothing is going to change.

[-] 1 points by Individual (3) 12 years ago

As long as we cling to a sysem of centralized mass production nothing will change. We have the means to create a system of production by the masses. We could create a system of home based computerized manufacturing equipment to produce our goods. I believe this is the only way we can ever guarantee that we have jobs and the only way that we can ever go back to a fair distribution of wealth in this country.

Consider textiles, the manufacture of cloth and clothing. Have you ever seen the old fashioned looms and spinning wheels? How easy would it be to computerize this machinery so that anyone could use it? We could easily make computerized machinery that would fit in our homes and produce cloth and clothing. We could also create an information netword where people could get information on how to make specific cloths or types of clothing. The network would describe the production process and list the specific materials needed. It could also have uniform programming to run our home based computerized equipment. We don't have to use large factories to make cloth by the square mile just because we know how. In fact, if the textiles industry is unable to function in the factory environment it should be returned to the individuals. Is it more important for one small group to maintain control over the textiles industry or is it more important that we all have a way to survive.

We could not only do this in the textiles industry but we could apply it to other industries as well. Frankly, with advances in computerized machinery the factory is no longer required except in the final assembly of large products. (It's hard to make an airplane in your home.) Leaving mass production and returning to production by the masses would be a good way of ending the wealth disparity that currently exists worldwide.

[-] 0 points by SteveKJR (-497) 12 years ago

I am not sure how old you are but this technology has already been developed.

That is one reason factories are more efficient and there are less people working - GM, Ford Motor Company, Honda, Toyota - the list goes on.

[-] 1 points by poltergist22 (159) 12 years ago

you want American jobs go to www.nationalday911.org and read the summary at least

[-] 1 points by vats (107) 12 years ago

You want American jobs, Ban Out sourcing IT work to inida, and stop H1B and L1Visa to foreign countries

[-] 0 points by SteveKJR (-497) 12 years ago

Hey, this is all part of it - any company in this country that does business outside the boundraies of this country will be taxed

[-] 1 points by vats (107) 12 years ago

looks like neither republic or democrats have any sense regarding danger of out sourcing to america, they do not even mention in their speech , self centred lots these people are

[-] 1 points by kingscrossection (1203) 12 years ago

Then who would trade with us?

[-] 1 points by JimBeam (152) 12 years ago

They enjoy a sweet deal right now trading with us because we treat our domestic companies far worse than we do outsiders. This is a great post and tells the tale of how our current goverment continues to stop the growth of our domestic market.

[-] 1 points by kingscrossection (1203) 12 years ago

They do now yes but not after which is the point. No one would trade with us if this was the case.

[-] 0 points by SteveKJR (-497) 12 years ago

Anyone who wants to do business with America.

[-] 1 points by kingscrossection (1203) 12 years ago

You are delusional. Not everyone and not after we make it incredibly difficult for them to trade with us.

[-] 0 points by SteveKJR (-497) 12 years ago

Does it really matter?

[-] 1 points by kingscrossection (1203) 12 years ago

A little yes. There are things that we can't make ourselves because of our lack of some natural resources.

[-] 1 points by hymie (391) 12 years ago

I basically agree with your ideas, but also believe that another approach can work with your proposal perhaps in a complimentary way.

This idea applies to China, from whom we buy most of our consumer goods, and the idea would not be to manufacture the same products as them, but rather the products that they need and can't make for themselves.

These would be high tech products such as advanced machine tools. Currently, such products are restricted under the high tech trade ban, which to me is counterproductive considering that China has never fought an aggressive war with the west.

We could get rich selling to China in this way, but I think your ideas have a point as well.

[-] 0 points by SteveKJR (-497) 12 years ago

If we could find that market to export to them, that would work also.

[-] 1 points by hymie (391) 12 years ago

Could you say more? I'm not sure I understand.

[-] 0 points by SteveKJR (-497) 12 years ago

What I mean is lets import to China and provide them with products they can't make "in house".

[-] 1 points by hymie (391) 12 years ago

Yes, that's right, but the government would have to declassify them as "dual use" technologies, that is, they could be used for peaceful as well as military purposes.

[-] 1 points by Mooks (1985) 12 years ago

Who gets to explain to lower income and middle class families why a package of socks at Target costs $30 now?

[-] 1 points by hymie (391) 12 years ago

If the fathers of the families are making $50k a year working in factories, affording a fairly priced pair of socks should be no problem.

One other point is that when workers are fairly paid, they can improve themselves and their children through education. This allows them to solve technical problems of production more effectively, bringing down the cost of goods.

[-] 1 points by Mooks (1985) 12 years ago

I am pretty sure a family making $50K a year is still going to want the socks for $2.99 that are made in Indonesia.

[-] 1 points by hymie (391) 12 years ago

Not if it means they loose their $50k a year job.

Also, paying workers so that they can afford education brings prices down by improving the production process. This is what an older engineer told me, based on his memory of how we used to do things "the American way".

[-] 0 points by SteveKJR (-497) 12 years ago

Well, exported products could be sold at a lower price using the "import/export" tax to offset the cost and still keep businesses competitive.

Hey, right now, this would be better then what we have now.

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[-] 0 points by SteveKJR (-497) 12 years ago

You are missing the point - this will put people back to work so they can afford socks.

Are you satisfied with buying "cheap chinese made products" and supporting the chinese economy? Would you rather continue to do that?