Forum Post: You want a solution? I've got a solution.
Posted 12 years ago on May 8, 2012, 8:11 a.m. EST by badguy
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from Baltimore, OH
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Stop wasting your time at Occupy Wall Street; and here's a novel concept. Get up at 6 am. Shovel some coffee down your throat. Hit the pavement. Find a job. Get to work. Stop whining. Stop complaining. Stop blaming, and get your ass out of bed like everybody else in America, and get to work. -Sean Hannity
So, badguy, you think that all unemployed and underemployed Occupiers have to do is get up at 6 and drink coffee and walk around looking for work and the magic wand of free market capitalism will bless us, everyone? C'mon dude. You think that's all this movement is all about? If we'd just try, all the crap that is pulled by the scammers in Washington and Wall St. wld stop and they would all realize the errors of their ways and resolve to never again steal and cheat? Really??
Um..there are thousands upon thousands of people with jobs who support what occupy wallstreet is doing. Wake up. And if you watch fox news, then i'm sorry, all hope may be lost for your mind.
Wake up
get out out of bed without being already late for work
demand elections be national and state holidays
Having or not having a job is a non-issue. We all would still go to occupy protests if we all had jobs because there is something wrong with this country. Capitalism cant employ everybody and if you think it can then you are out of touch with reality. I don't know why the opposition uses the "get a job" thing. There is no point to it. And its kind of strange that before OWS there were no jobs and now all of the sudden there are a bunch of jobs.
Its not exactly that capitalism can employ every able body. It may seem like a rather clichè idea of capitalism, but it seems to me that the point of the ideal 3ish% unemployment would be to create more competitive prices. That being said, you'll probably say that the much higher unemployment rate at the moment is not driving prices down.
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why play in a rigged game?
would you play poker with a known cheat, who already has a pot larger than you can bring? some of us are far from lazy, and much wiser than you know.
we will simply replace that corrupt system with something better. get a job if you want one, some of us are building stuff to make the world better,. rather than working for the man to just buy more junk.
Just remember, every solution causes a problem. So I'll just pass. So you just stay as a mindless, heartless troll who would have been soon found out and fired by me and I will stay a guy who worked forever and is comfortably retired and not a shiftless twit You would be embarrassed to meet a bunch of us and we would be embarrassed if you were our children. That goes for Hannity, as well.
So, since you really have nothing to offer why don't you just leave? And next time wipe your feet before you come inside.
Mr badguy, it is my most humble wish for you that you will form your own opinion someday based on real and true attempts to see life through someone elses eyes, other than Sean Hannity that is. It is this kind of rhetoric and lack of empathy that is proof to me that I for one never ever want to be like you. So if you recomend work, then I refuse it.
Would it make you happy if I removed Mr. Hannity's name from this post? These aren't just Mr. Hannity's words. These are the words of millions of Americans that feel the same way. We are tired of working our asses off to support a bunch of spoiled rotten little simpletons that refuse to contribute anything. I do not lack empathy for those individuals out there that are struggling but are trying. We have all been there. I do lack empathy for you and the rest of the layabouts that occupy Wall street's sidewalks. Bad things happen to all of us. That's life. It's what you do to pick yourself up from those bad times that counts for something. Standing outside of someone else's business and whining about how unfairly you have been treated will win you no sympathy from me or any other American that values hard work.
you are so ignorant.. so you are saying that 15 million hard working americans that had thier jobs eliminated are worthless losers? that they worked for 10 -35 yrs counts for nothing? the minute they get fired they become usless bottom feeders. are you actually american?
Absolutely not. Let me clarify my previous statement. I am not saying that 15 million hard working Americans are bottom feeders. I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion. I thoroughly enjoy Americans that believe in hard work. I'm saying that the people that make up your movement are a bunch of worthless bottom feeders. I have no idea how many of you there are.
I have no idea how many of you there are.
Then you are going to be in for a real shock when you find out.
BAD Guy:
So how many hours a week do you work BAD guy?
If your not working at least 84 hours a week, your not even a half-timer. ANd if that's true it would make you lazy-y-y. So, you should have no right to complain because your not a hard worker. It always seems to follow that the very ones complaining about some behavior they seemingly abhor, they are actually participating in that very behavior. For example, some hate lazy people because they are personally, in fact, lazy, finding it abhorrent and frustrating that they procrastinate so much it angers them. So they complain of others like them instead taking it on the chin and make a change for the better. This world runs Wild in these paradoxes, dualities. Like bombing for Peace. The dualities are everywhere, just look! This is OUR world.
So, badguy, I think your a lazy pig. Part timer? (tell the truth)
What are doing when your doing nothing?
Why do you waste your time doing nothing?
Puzzling
i come to that conclusion because this movement is about the fact that 15 million jobs were eliminated, that there are no jobs , that there will be no replacement of those jobs. that what it is about. so there fore. if you are bashing people in this movement that is who you are categorizing, hardworking americans with no jobs, no opportunity for jobs. how do you come to the conclusion this movement is about anything else?
Again, you are making assumptions about me and all those who struggle to provide you and your family with something better. We all know that this system is the best there is, but i am not ready stand by while people suffer when I can help. My job in this world given to me by my creator is to make people such as yourself aware of the injustice that you blindly perpetuate out of Hate. I don't say this lightly, I'm not just triing to get your goat. I'm not afraid of hard work and I consider myself to be out of the rat race. But this society will fail if changes are not made. And that starts with me and you.
The fact that you think that protesting capitalism somehow helps me and my family says too much about your movement. I am not claiming that greed is absent from our society. It is true that our society needs change. However, the problem is not capitalism. The problem is not big-business. Greed exists in a socialist society just as much as it does in free ones. The problem in this country is in its people. We are our own worst enemies. Until this nation's people can learn to embrace their own capacity for greatness, we will never be great again. Occupy Wall Street is pointing their fingers in the wrong direction.
I better be honest here with you and say I joined this forum because I think this is where the debate is happening. but I for my part understand why people who have succeded in this capitalistic society are not in a hurry to make the necessary change. But make no mistake, it is flawed, a crash will happen again and 10 to 1 its caused from within. Now, what I don't really understand is why you fear that a social society can't be free. To me, when I think of the society that could be, I suppose it is a bit utopianistic, but I fear that if we don't aim that high then it comes up short of our capacity.
BAD Guy says this: "Until this nation's people can learn to embrace their own capacity for greatness, we will never be great again."
I say:
So why the hell would we need any form of Government if it's just up to us as individuals to make our own way?
Are you a Libertarian?
Comment: You seem to lack basic compassion. I guess, really, no one should ever ask you for any help unless your related through blood. Everyone else is SOL in your view as you perceive them with a deep suspicion that they somehow want to take something from you. Mister Hardworking Bad Guy (LMFAO)
The Puzzler
Any job openings at the swamp-gator farm you work at. Oh, can I borrow your sister when you're done with her (and please wear a condom)?
Why, would you work here with me? Seeing the level of respect you have for the "99%" makes me smile. You want jobs as long as they aren't jobs that require work. One day of real work on any farm would probably do you good. You might learn something. (or get your ass kicked by some dumn "redneck" that lacks the patience to deal with ignorant comments) Maybe when I'm done with my sister, I can come to your house and teach how to use proper punctuation.
I don't mingle with dumb red necks. I'm from NYC, so thankfully I don't have to (we really don't have any, and all our southerners are, for the most part, the smart people from the south, who got the fuck out of there at the first available opportunity). I'm sure there's some smart people in our swampy regions (it is sunny after all, which has a certain appeal), but you're obviously not one of them :)
Our swampy regions? Seriously? Maybe you should stop typing before you hurt something upstairs.
Well goddamn bubba ... is the best you got (duhhhh) :)
You got me Francis. Apparently making intelligent arguments is the best I can do. Now if I could just figure out how to avoid an intelligent debate, I would have it made. Ooh, I know. I'll call you a redneck.
Sometimes I wish I was a red neck. Ahhh how simple the world would be. No worries about the complexities of calculus, or biology, or law, or chemistry, or computer science, just my buybull and my Hannity :)
whos the dumb redneck here.. lets see.. 15 million out of work.. 115k hired. never did much math did you ?? they dont teach you how to cifer there in new york city??
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Sounds like you need the coffee and then a reality check. There are way more people out of work then there are jobs to fill. Can't get a job when they don't exist. SFB.
You're funny. You just admitted that there are jobs out there to be filled. If nobody chooses to fill them then in reality there are more jobs out there than there is demand for those jobs. The problem is not that there aren't enough jobs available. The problem is that the people who swear to be looking for work aren't actually looking for work at all. They're camped out in a park bitching and moaning about how there aren't any jobs. By the way, the individual that was being schooled on Hannity's program was offered a job after the program was over. He turned it down. According to the Occupier himself "It doesn't pay enough money." Who's the greedy elitist now?
There is one job available for every 4 people unemployed. 50% of the entire American population is living at or near the poverty rate. Think they are all worthy of your contempt as well?
So yeah, go fuck yourself.
The trucking industry can't find enough workers right now - both long haul and short haul. There is work out there, just not for people who don't want to work. When the CEO of a large trucking company was asked why he can'rt find enough drivers he said that it's a tough job and people don't want it. They have unemployment insurance.
Really, trucking can employ another 15 million people? The FACT is, nationwide, there are not enough jobs to go around by a factor of 4 to 1.
There a approx 3.5 million truck drivers in the US, so yes it will put a dent in it. Business won't invest because they don't trust the rookie in the White House, so every little bit helps.
There are not 3.5 million available trucking jobs. You gave the number for those already working, INCLUDING all the trucking jobs available, there is only one job available for every 4 applicants. Business can't get loans from banks who are sitting on piles of cash, there is no consumer demand so there is no way to reduce excess inventory: THAT'S why they are not hiring. It' called a recession, in case you missed it.
I said it would put a dent in it, not fix it.
Small businesses can't get loans from the banks because there is increased regulations. This is just what you want. The regulators are in the faces of the banks and have only eased up the past three months on direction from Obama because he now realizes he has to get re-elected. This is your economy and you are getting exactly what you ordered.
But amazing isn't it, that there were so many smart government regulators in the face of JP Morgan and these smart regulators couldn't find a multi billion trading loss. It took Bloomberg and the market to find it.
Small businesses can't get loans (and most aren't applying for them) because there is no consumer DEMAND. It is a result of the RECESSION, not government regulation.
Banks can't and won't give because of that regulation. That's what you wanted and you got it. Now only the 1% can get loans.
Bank regulation has never been weaker than since before the Great Depression.
1000 business owners and CEOs were polled last year about why they weren't expanding, hiring or borrowing, why they were sitting on their cash. Government regulation ranked at the very bottom of the fifty or so reasons they gave. Lack of consumer demand was cited as number 1.
The Bank-caused recession caused well over 15 million jobs to be lost. 1.7 million homes were foreclosed upon. 50% of the entire population was thrown into poverty or near poverty.
That all hampers DEMAND. People don't have INCOMES. Without incomes they don't BUY THINGS. If they don't buy things, there is excess INVENTORY. Companies don't invest in new products when no one is buying anything. You don't create supply when there is no demand. It's Econ 101.
Thank you - crisp clear and to the actual truth of the matter. Well said.
Boy are you confused. It's the bank's that won't lend to the small businesses because the regulators are sitting in their face telling them not to.
I guess you didn't study Say's Law in your version of Econ 101 that you brag about.
Guess you haven't actually talked to the business owners. Their own assessments put regulations at the bottom of the things they are concerned about. LACK OF DEMAND IS THEIR #1 CONCERN.
There were MORE banking regulations in the 1990s, and lending was brisk. There are FEWER regulations now than then and lending has stalled. There is NO relationship to the amount of regulations and lending.
If no one is able to buy anything, there is no good business reason to make anything. Hence no lending.
It's the RECESSION, stupid. (As in "It's the economy, stupid.")
Who ever told you I was a union leader?
Pretty big assumption yourself, there, Sparky.
But if I WERE a union leader, I would be very proud of it, and might take umbrage at being called "just" such a leader. But since I'm not, I don't.
Frank/Dodd was written mostly by the banks, dunderhead. They took the teeth out of it almost entirely. Did you miss the one about JP Morgan Chase? It's really funny. Great punch line.
And the lending contraction you refer to was NOTHING compared to what we're seeing today.
Forbes, that radical communist magazine, did a survey of 1000 business owners, and they all said that demand was the #1 reason for no new lending or investment, and regulations were the least of their concerns, ranking at the very bottom or the reasons they weren't expanding businesses, rehiring workers, taking out loans, and so on.
Let's make this simple enough fro you to understand. Demand (when folks want to buy things) gets other folks (businesses) to make things to sell to them. If folks don't have money they don't buy things, and the other folks don't make things to sell to them. It's really that simple.
Supply and demand. When there's no demand, there's no supply. Basic capitalism 101.
Oh maybe, you didn't go past freshman economics, which seems likely from your comments. Did they not teacj Say's Law at the junior college you attended?
The trading loss at JP Morgan just makes my point, regulations don't work. They couldn't stop those trades and they have an office there!!!
If anything, because of the government guarantee and implied backstop, I believe we should reinitiate Glass Steagal and limit the activities. That way the shadow banking will grow, as it already is. Even if we don't the problem is fixing itself as money is flowing out of the large money center banks to uninsured deposits with private firms.
Say's law does not apply. When there is no income, demand is not created by any amount of supply. Keynes effectively showed that Say's law is a fallacy, at least as far as recessionary periods are concerned. Did they not teach you Keynes or macroeconomics in your Ayn Rand/Mises fan club gatherings?
The application of Say's law did not end the Great Depression. The application of Keynesian principles did. (And just for the record, Say himself advocated public works to remedy unemployment, and criticized Ricardo for neglecting the possibility of hoarding if there was a lack of investment opportunities.)
It is not that regulations don't work, the LACK of them doesn't work. Morgan/Chase fought successfully to ELIMINATE the specific regulations in Frank/Dodd that would have prevented their 2 billion dollar loss. Regulations work. Glass Steagal worked, too. It was regulation.
ANd we need very strong regulation to PREVENT shadow banking. No problems are "fixing" themselves. Crazy derivative schemes, hidden from view, are still risking trillions of dollars, all hidden from view. Without strong regulation banks will simply continue to engage in the kinds of risky behavior that crashed the economy. It does NOT matter that money is going to uninsured deposits (itself ridiculously risky) But that will NOT prevent an implied government backstop. If there is another run banks by other banks (which is what caused the current meltdown) the government will once again be forced to do whatever it has to in order to prevent catastrophe, including bailing them out.
That's a pretty big assumption, how do you know I haven't spoken to the business owners. You are just an union leader, so you don't live in the real world of competition.
The banking regulations are higher today than they were in the 90's. Have you hears of Dodd-Frank. And you super smart regulators couldn't even find a multi billion dollar loss at the world's largest bank.
Do you forget the lending contraction of 1990, which was caused by higher regulations. Of course, you don't live in the real world.
The banks have plenty money to lend and they are lending to the best credits. The ironic part is that only the 1% will get money now. Thanks you are doing a great job.
Who ever told you I was a union leader?
Pretty big assumption yourself, there, Sparky.
But if I WERE a union leader, I would be very proud of it, and might take umbrage at being called "just" such a leader. But since I'm not, I don't.
Frank/Dodd was written mostly by the banks, dunderhead. They took the teeth out of it almost entirely. Did you miss the one about JP Morgan Chase? It's really funny. Great punch line.
And the lending contraction you refer to was NOTHING compared to what we're seeing today.
Forbes, that radical communist magazine, did a survey of 1000 business owners, and they all said that demand was the #1 reason for no new lending or investment, and regulations were the least of their concerns, ranking at the very bottom or the reasons they weren't expanding businesses, rehiring workers, taking out loans, and so on.
Let's make this simple enough fro you to understand. Demand (when folks want to buy things) gets other folks (businesses) to make things to sell to them. If folks don't have money they don't buy things, and the other folks don't make things to sell to them. It's really that simple.
Supply and demand. When there's no demand, there's no supply. Basic capitalism 101.
Amazingly, that one job per four is still available and you are still typing on a forum instead of applying for that job. I'm curious. Do you just pull random numbers out of your head? Are you going to tell me that 50% of Americans make less than $10,890 a year? Pardon me while I call "Bullshit" on that.
The US Census Bureau published the report. The only bullshit here is you vomiting up your pronouncements without so much as bothering to get some fact first.
Typical right wing myth based crap.
And, BTW, most people in OWS have jobs, so your whole premise is full of shit to begin with.
Keep believing in your myths, douchebag.
Wow. What do you know? I just read the US Census Bureau's 2010 press release on the nation's poverty rate. Amazingly, the poverty rate in this country is 15.1%. Just in case you would like to read the right wing myth based crap that I'm vomiting up, I am posting a link to the site. Tell me again, who is a douchebag?http://www.census.gov/newsroom/releases/archives/income_wealth/cb11-157.html
Moron, I said poverty and near poverty. The Bureau's figures come to about 150,000,000 people who fall into those categories. Learn to read.
I keep looking at Census reports and can't seem to find one that backs up your statement. That is because the US Census keeps no record of near poverty. That term does not exist in the Bureau's records. They have determined a new and "better" method of calculating near "poor" however. This new and improved system considers Phyllis Pendleton from Washington near poor. She and her husband make a miserable $51,000 a year. (poor Mrs. Pendleton) The two of them together own two cars and a $230,000 home. Don't worry. I will include the article if you would like to read it. Even with the additional 51 million people that the census bureau now considers near poor, I'm afraid you're still a little short of 50%. Thanks for playing though.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/19/us/census-measures-those-not-quite-in-poverty-but-struggling.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all
Near poverty is defined as less that 200% of poverty.
That's amazing. You are right. I completely missed the "near poverty" part of your statement. Maybe you would be so kind as to refer me to the report you are referring to. I was unable to find such a report. I would be very grateful.
Meaningful jobs pay a living wage. Why would/should someone take a job that would require massive amounts of overtime to just be able to eat and keep a nasty beaten-down roof over their head? Doing this would support the poor pay system.
By not taking those minimum wage ( non-subsistence ) paying jobs the message is being stated that the pay system/rate needs to be adjusted.
This is reality - this is people standing up for what is right in a way that may get listened to.
Acceptance of poor wages and work is an acceptance of the current system. And the current system is fucked up beyond all possible recognition ( fubar ).
Do you mean that we should adjust the pay system even more than it already has been? If you think that the minimum wage in this country isn't high enough, maybe you would like to raise it even higher. Tell me, at what rate do you think unskilled American workers should be paid? Maybe the guy flipping burgers should make the same as his manager. I hate to sound like a broken record but success is achieved through hard work. Maybe working two jobs is not a bad thing. Maybe the world is not some pink and blue padded nursery where spoiled rotten little know-it--alls get whatever their little hearts desire because they said so.
Minimum wage - should be tied to the basics of what it takes to survive in this world - PERIOD.
Food
Rent
Insurance
Transportation
Ability to start a savings program
This is all about starting out - a very 1st beginning in self sufficiency.
Paying taxes and supporting your community with a broad tax base and no need for public assistance to make ends meet.
Yeah current minimum wage is fucked.
How much did they offer?
Would you sell your soul to FLAKESnews?
The guy refused to take less than $80,000 a year. He had no real experience in the field he was looking for...media analyst. He was arrogant and disrespectful and appeared to want the celebrity attention he was getting more than the job being offered.
Hannity is arrogant, disrespectful, haughty, smug, and lies a lot too.
How much does he make?
How much would ask to lie your face off to the whole World?
Does it matter how much was offered? The last time I checked, making any amount of money is better than making no money at all. If this is the attitude that the next generation has, then this country really is in trouble. You want the perfect job or no job at all. You can't seem to grasp the concept that sometimes life is not "fair". You don't always get to start at the top. Success requires hard work. It isn't just handed out like candy. Leave it to a bunch of unemployed, self-entitled little brats that have never created any wealth at all to tell the rest of us how to manage ours. Mr. Hannity offered to get him a job. I don't know where but the offer should have been enough. Besides, he never said he wouldn't work for "FLAKESnews". He simply said that whatever it was, it did not pay enough.
Start at the Top, sounds like a ponsy/piramid scheme to me, shut this guy down boys! You actually want me to believe there isn't a better way, as if your 30 years of experience cleaning toilets makes you somehow more qualified then a guy off the street. Come on! It is in fact true that I took the job of a 30yr engineer at Verizon and did it better, and a kid out of high school came in after me and is better than me. Don't kid yourself! Your so called hard work isn't all that. 1 out of 2 people off the street can learn any job and do it better than the guy before, ie. Pres. Obama. Also if a guy has 3 part time jobs, that means 2 people are out of a work, and you know this is you guyses favorite story. "I worked 3 full time jobs while walking backwards through a corn field" or something like that. Come on, man! What is this?
How much did you say you would sell your soul for?
I'm really curious as you seem to lack a working concept of scruples.
Again, if that's the argument you want to make, go ahead. It is not however the argument that the occupier on that show was making. He made it known to everybody what his priorities were. As far as my soul goes, I am doing just fine. I work for a living and make good money doing so. Believe it or not, FoxNews isn't the only company that is hiring right now. I read the paper every Sunday and surprisingly the classifieds still have a hiring section.
You didn't answer the question.
How much would you sell your soul for?
Somehow, you keep asking. I don't agree with your premise. To think that taking a job at Fox News is somehow selling your soul is an unreasonable statement. I watch their station on occasion and have seen democrats, republicans, independents, socialists, communists and anarchists all debating the issues. It seems to me that to publicly voice your opinion on a station with more viewers than the others combined is just good marketing. Maybe Bob Beckel is just a sell-out. Maybe Juan Williams has sold his soul. Then again, maybe those individuals are doing what they feel is right by allowing themselves the opportunity to express themselves freely. Or is that just too American for you?
I keep asking, because you keep refusing to answer.
If he takes the job for minimum wage, you'll just bitch about that too.
So c'mon, how much would YOU sell you soul for?
You don't comprehend english, do you? I don't agree with your false premise. Until you have something intelligent to contribute, I'm done with the back and forth. As far as the minimum wage goes, please refer to my original statement.
What false premise?
How much would you sell your soul for? OIC. You don't have a soul because you already sold it.
How much did you get for it?
Since your being stupid i will too. NO, i will not !
Good solution. Americans - eat over and already can't up his ass from bed. This is no capitalism this is cosialism that is destroy and broken USA. Go death is cosialism and building new capitalism.
Is this false topic made just to draw praise/protection and credibiity where it's not due or needed?
The Federal Reserve has created over 10 trillion dollars from nothing and used it for their private interests on Wall Street and with the Big Banks. This process make your dollars worth less every time because it causes inflation.
Occupy Wall Street!!!
Hannity is an ass clown and you are a fool if you believe there is not fraud on Wall Street.
Here's an example of one of the many times they've created trillions from nothing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUpXDZFtEHw
Banks Got Bailed Out We (the tax payers) Got Sold Out
Slacker, I'm up at 4 am every day.
And?
And... I go right back to bed. No, actually, I work by Skype with a company in Argentina. Their time zone is four hours different than mine.
Yes! I agree! And just ignore the facts that the price of coffee (et.al.) has increased so much, jobs have become scarce, (mostly sent out of the country by the 1%), pay for the fewer jobs for the 99% has been severely cut, pay for the big wheels has climbed outrageously, tuition has skyrocketed, millions still can't afford medical care, the homeless rate has increased, and these are only a few of the things the greedy people would like us to ignore. The most pitiful thing is, those that pay the highest tax rates had to bail out those that pay the least due to their own greedy behavior. Oh yeah. did I mention our corrupt govenrment? Then watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTQ1WOC9RgY
These few valid issues are among the many people like this individual would have us ignore while our time is owned by our work or we futily look for actual living wage work. I wonder if Hannity thinks he is really worth what he's paid and if so why..?
Aren't you the ones saying there aren't any jobs because O-bomb-ya has not "created" any?
And don't feed me any nonsense about it being possible to start an online business! It's impossible!
Coffee is bad for humans. Energy spikes in a humans lead to prehypertension, strokes, diabetes, & host of other ailments to many to list quickly. I choose not to shovel anything down my throat that is bad for me. This is bad, bully, heartless, simpleton advice exposing the speaker's shrinking soul.
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Here's an idea: Go fuck yourself
I with you Xenu. But language!
Best laugh I've had all week. heheheheheheheheheheh \ Thanks. heheheheheh
Really?
You have a real way with words Xenu. lol
Wow, seriously? Go f* myself? How old are you? Sounds to me like Xenu lives without the benefit of something intelligent to say.
We will allow the Evident Truth do all the f*ing around here. But, hey, that's just my opinion, so carry on but be nice Paaaaaaaaaa---Lezzzzzzzzzzzz.
LMFuAO {: ])
Really, be nice.
Puzzlin
Badguy, you're telling people to work and take responsibility for their own lives. Shame on you. The current administration wants everyone to be dependent on the gov, controlled by the govt..
Yeah, better to let 'em all starve.
Badguy didn't say anything and neither have you, but Hannity seems to be quit vocal on this forum.
no, guy didn'y say it but by posting it , and reading his further posts, he endorsed it.
Iknow, it's crazy. Don't you just hate it when people make sense?
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