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Forum Post: "You may delay, but time will not." Benjamin Franklin

Posted 12 years ago on Nov. 7, 2012, 11:53 a.m. EST by FawkesNews (1290)
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After a brief period of thanking your lucky stars, mobilization is even more important now than ever.

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[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 12 years ago

Again - Fundamental change for the better will only happen with the involvement of the people.

We absolutely need to continue as we have been - pushing issues - educating the public and getting them inspired to get involved. Government and policies/practices have not changed ( not yet ) just some of the players. We need to continue - stronger than before - stronger everyday.

Society is a work of 24/7/365/Forever.

[-] 1 points by FawkesNews (1290) 12 years ago

The very continued existence of OWS is proof of the possibility for changes that will last indefinitely. Thank you

“Water is fluid, soft & yielding but water will wear away rock, which is rigid and cannot yield ... what is soft is strong.” Lao Tzu

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 12 years ago

Remain focused dedicated patient flexible open-minded honest inclusive inviting educating mentoring active communicative - united/uniting.

[-] 1 points by FawkesNews (1290) 12 years ago

Thanks.

Q: Have you noticed that people seem to be "waking up" slowly? What used to be distasteful in conversation has become more commonplace. ie. money in politics.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 12 years ago

IMO - Education awareness and conversation spread slowly when there are powers working on maintaining a news black-out. This ( I believe ) will change once a certain point/level/quantity/number of education/awareness has been achieved. Then communications will get better and faster as people who have gotten active will remain active in sharing and circulating information.

[-] 1 points by FawkesNews (1290) 12 years ago

I believe that threshold has been crossed. Well informed discussions seem more prevalent than they used to be. Better yet, interrupting them with trite idiocy is not considered as "acceptable" as it once was. Just observations of mine. Thanks

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 12 years ago

Yes - a certain amount of national awareness has been achieved as seen in the change of dialog that has leaked onto the MSM programs. And you very well could be correct - in that we have reached a tipping point - where things are gonna bust loose. Yes early derisive jokes about the social movement are becoming less acceptable to the public.

[-] 1 points by FawkesNews (1290) 12 years ago

MSM programs? I assume Main Stream Media? Most people who rely upon Main Stream Media know someone close to them who is willing and interested to use either a smartphone/computer to research what is an obvious fallacy, before that fallacy can develop into a false-truth for the otherwise unsuspecting viewer/reader/listener. I believe this will progress, thus further dividing the informed from the apathetic/disinterested/brainwashed/lazy/ignorant.

Lastly, derisive jokes with so little basis in truth have less and less validity, more and more often. At least from what I have seen and experienced. I honestly believe these changes are exponential and will become commonplace soon.

Thank you for you time and I apologize for not responding promptly yesterday.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 12 years ago

Not a prob - answer as you are able or want to answer - I am here regularly.

The advent of electronic communication available to the public to travel the world in moments is such a huge achievement for fostering/promoting real issues to be discussed.

[-] 2 points by FawkesNews (1290) 12 years ago

Thanks

Instant communication like this will be the demise of any group set on controlling what information is considered viable and what is considered not. The 'lack of education' in America is the only tool remaining in the arsenal of those intent on feeding lies to Americans. It must be removed from their grasp. Even if it has to be from their cold dead hands.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 12 years ago

Instant communications available and accessed/used by the public - I do believe kept big money from buying an election for a true CorpoRATist. I believe it also helped support good initiatives like preventing the banning of gay Marriage in the Mn state constitution as well as in a couple of states making gay marriage legal ( a victory for equality ) also in getting marijuana on ballots to be voted on to be made legal in Colorado Oregon Washington ( creating possibilities for new industry/jobs as well as ending criminalization of what should be a personal choice issue ) to prevent voter suppression initiatives also and to forward the Move to Amend initiative/campaign.

[-] 1 points by FawkesNews (1290) 12 years ago

I am certain that each of your examples are direct benefits of a well used internet. Interestingly, each of the examples you brought out are dependent upon ideologies entirely devoid of well researched and scientifically accurate truths. Religion is the basis for opposition to gay marriage. DuPont's Nylon was the end of hemp rope. Amending the Constitution can never benefit Corporations.

[-] -1 points by bestevidence (170) 12 years ago

Speaking of trite and idiotic interruptions....

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 12 years ago

I take it as a fact that you are a person of color - as all people are.

But exactly who are you trying to portray yourself as?

I ask - because I have not been in the least little bit bigoted/racist/colorist. But you place that charge on me.

Could it be that you are just a shill? Here to spread trouble? That would be my take on it. Or to state it another way - bestevidence so far strongly suggests that you are some type of shill/troublemaker.

[-] 0 points by bestevidence (170) 12 years ago

I'm usually seen to be "white" by almost everyone I meet, though I never saw a truly "white" person. (Me being a taxi driver, some very few European people can't grasp that I am of their very own tribe). You are so into yourself that no amount of arguing can penetrate. You as an individual are frankly not worth any more bother.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 12 years ago

Did you get booted?

You seem so shy on following up with your hate.

Perhaps you are having a moment of introspection?

Perhaps you are confronting your hate?

Good - I hope you achieve personal growth/maturity.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 12 years ago

BTW - was that your sign off(?) or were you name calling?


bestevidence said 0 minutes ago at Nov. 8, 2012, 2:35 p.m. EST (delete)

it suits you well and I wanted to make sure you saw it even if the moderators might be inclined to erase it from the forum, whiteboy asshole.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 12 years ago

No need to be shy. But I would suggest you take your hate to somewhere useful - 4 U that is = Therapy.


bestevidence said 0 minutes ago at Nov. 8, 2012, 2:35 p.m. EST (delete)

it suits you well and I wanted to make sure you saw it even if the moderators might be inclined to erase it from the forum, whiteboy asshole.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 12 years ago

???????????

[-] 0 points by bestevidence (170) 12 years ago

A virtual stutter? I don't spend my life here.

[-] 1 points by bestevidence (170) 12 years ago

Yep. Now more than ever the progressive people must get out there!

[-] 1 points by FawkesNews (1290) 12 years ago

Thus, though we have heard of stupid haste in war, cleverness has never been seen associated with long delays. Sun Tzu

[-] 1 points by bestevidence (170) 12 years ago

Strike while the iron is hot.

[-] 1 points by FawkesNews (1290) 12 years ago

Forged weapons are far superior. That is what you meant?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damascus_steel

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 12 years ago

True. True. True....

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 12 years ago

Agreed.

[-] 1 points by FawkesNews (1290) 12 years ago

I am sure you are as active outwardly as you are in this forum. Thank you

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 12 years ago

You have no idea what I am passing around outside of this little forum. You don't know who I am talking to and you don't need to know. Sounds to me like you may have another ID that is highly tweaked that I am not buying into a particular brand of BS.

[-] 1 points by FawkesNews (1290) 12 years ago

I hope you are passing around good things and talking to decent people. Your personae here seems sincere.

I have no other ID, never have and never will.

[-] -1 points by Saesneg (-166) from Linwood, NJ 12 years ago

Why is it people here only raise the Founders to incite us to their agenda; when Ben Franklin says "frugality," for example, y'all through him under the bus. And then run him over, repeatedly.

[-] 0 points by FawkesNews (1290) 12 years ago

I for one am through with "throughing" anyone under the bus. Especially our founding fathers.

Ben Franklin was a profound man with ideas that were both acceptable to our modern ways as well as unacceptable to them. I admire those like him.