Forum Post: You have been brainwashed
Posted 13 years ago on Nov. 6, 2011, 10:52 p.m. EST by thomasmiller
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My friends, I want to inform you that you have been brainwashed. You sit there in a camp somewhere repeating the same old phrases again and again about the banks...the corporate world. You are paranoid about the police and the so called "government forces".
This no longer seems like a "protest". It seems more like a bunch of people who have been brainwashed and need some type of help by a qualified doctor.
Look, we got your message. We heard it loud and clear, but you certainly do not need to get hypothermia over it. When people are reporting to the hospital or outright dieing because they sat in some camp for too long, then this becomes a serious health and safety issue.
Barge into the Republican national convention, protest in front of the White House, hire a plane to write a sky message...do whatever you want to do, but do not risk your lives over this damned thing!
Tommy boy, Why do these people bother you so much? Do they make you afraid? Are they in your park? Does Bill O'reilly say they are bad? Is your mom dating one of them?
Seriously you are just bashing them for no reason. What kind of evil do you think they are going to do? Are they evildoers? Are they going to overthrow the government?
Tell us all please-------------Why we should be afraid?
This is a good point. I vote freeze to death. I personally am at a toasty 71 degrees in my house. I'm not being oppressed, not being swindled, not being coopted. I pay my bills, and I work hard. I don't have time to sit in a park and complain about how bad my life is. I'm busy living my life.
Need help making a t-shirt. We need to draw a picture of Zooccotti Park with a cage around it. Here are some ideas: Draw a hippie climbing the cage like a monkey and throwing shit.
Draw a hippie rolling in mud and shit like a pig.
Draw a hippies fucking like dogs.
Draw a picture of a hippie eating peanuts like a big fucking elephant. Draw a hippie as a lazy fucking Ape doing nothing.
Why don't you get a life you fucking moron. How's that piece of shit fake website working out. A failure? sounds like the rest of your life. Get a real job fuckwod
Suck a protester dick.
Why does it always come down to sucking a dick for you righties?
I swear you homo righties always talk about sucking dick or buttfucking some guy.
Maybe that explains your faux homophobia
Need help making a t-shirt. We need to draw a picture of Zooccotti Park with a cage around it. Here are some ideas: Draw a hippie climbing the cage like a monkey and throwing shit.
Draw a hippie rolling in mud and shit like a pig.
Draw a hippies fucking like dogs.
Draw a picture of a hippie eating peanuts like a big fucking elephant. Draw a hippie as a lazy fucking Ape doing nothing.
That's all you got punk?
Maybe you been spending too much time trying to save the world
You are probably at the beginning of your breakdown.
You got to be questoning what you are doing? Everybody else is wondering what you are doing? When do you eat, when do you sleep Are you bipolar?
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Damn. Speak english please. 'You got to be?'
I take treason very seriously.
Sit the Kool Aid down for a second and let me hear your spin on how this is treason
What Kool Aid? I drink Mountain Dew. Do the Dew. Paid for by Friends of Mountain Dew. Now, the seeking to destroy foundations is treason.
Come on "commie", we both know only a coward would side step the question by making funnies about beverage
I take treason very seriously.(You replied to me)
I am asking, Tell me what you are calling treason? Explain it a little. otherwise you are just another paranoid poster.
I must choose my wording carefully. Some of the views of a terribly large sum are clearly to turn the West into another USSR. While I dislike holding the majority based on actions of a few, I feel they will be overtaken by the few and persuaded to follow them.
Thanks for your opinion. It seems honest.
I don't agree though. The way I see this is not to overthrow the government or replace it.
It is ultimately going to stop the corruption and unfairness. That has brought us to our knees.
The thing that is freaking everybody out is OWS not have a clear message. I can understand the fears of the unknown that people get
PS --- I will defend the constitution with my dying breath
Good to see you will. And I get the general picture. While the number of people who have completely differentvviews within the group is small, it is still large enough for me to be worried.
You need not follow others. The world and yes even the US is near communism. Look at all the recent bills past both houses of Congress by a majority vote. After it has passed out of Congress, it is sent along to the Obama (previously Bush) signs the bill, it becomes law. The President as not fulfilled any of his promises, he has done the opposite. The US, and the European Union are near bankruptcy and it needs to stop like right now, not the next few years. He has past bills to better protect banks, himself along with his Wall Street friends, and has ramped up the spying that Bush started.
Anyone who uses "like" as a conjunction that way is immediately discredited. It doesn't sound as if you are supporting it, so I will let it slide. We will not be communist. We cannot.
Agreed. You may remove "like". Grammar is not my passion nor am I writing an insurance document, or writing for a publishing group. I get it. One word can change the tone. I write as if I am talking. I assure you that I do support the movement. With the patriot act and a list of bills past as long as my arms, this is urgent we work on these matters now. I to do not want to live in hyper-inflated environment with a Nazi system.
Neither do I. But in order to create what some want, you need to create exactly that or worse. There are better solutions that people don't see or they don't agree on. How can you be in the same ring if you have multiple completely incoherent views with the same goal that undermine each other?
Stop being so mean, like right now!
Totally, dislike, no! I mean seriously, I dislike don't need to unless you, dislike, make a Star Trek joke.
like, far out man
educate your self tommie: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jones
I know all about Jim Jones and Jonestown. I was trying to say I tend to make my own opinions instead of blindly following others.
Thomas, with all due respect I think these people have been frustrated for a long time and have lost faith in the system's abilities and or motivation to correct these problems simple because they camped out for 60 days. I think the intention is to keep the pressure on (or ratchett it up) UNTIL real changes are made. Don't get mad at them, get mad at the system for not changing and perpetuating this mess we are now in.
This stuff is not rocket science, In the Great Depression we went through the same thing. Economic inequality was just as high as it was right before the Depression. Our fix was simple, raise taxes on the wealthy to create jobs for the people left behind by capitalism. Form unions to insure that everybody joins in the rewards of higher productivity. Regulate the banks so they do not have the power to destroy the economy. We need to implement the same solution now. And, like in the Depression, people will not back down until these goals are met.
Well put!
I think you need to study history. The Depression wasnt over until World War II. Hitler ended the Depression not Roosevelt.
I did. The Depression was prolonged because in 1937 Roosevelt decided to cut spending and balance the budget (he caught tea party fever). The country was thrown back into recession that we didn't pull out fully until the war. The high tax, unionized workforce and regulated bank model was responsible for a generation of growth and economic good times after the war.
I feel that the majority of the people opinionating in this site are only here to tear down the movement
It has been well stated by them that the OWS has not declared what they want (the opposition just knows it opposes, not why?)
My question to them is what are you afraid of? I have seen all kinds of imaginary (non -existent) villains be spoken against. I have seen the imaginary overthrow of our government spoken against. (yet nobody advocates any of the scenarios that are spoken against)
There is now talk about people defending themselves against OWS, yet there have been no threats to anybody from OWS
The bottom line
Not stating what the OWS wants is their biggest organizing tool. It is the fuel that is building the movement. It is revealing an opposition that will “make up things to be against”.
The collective opposition (some do know what it is about) is saying far more about their own imagined fear of the eventual success of OWS than anything else
Mr. Miller, Why, what a coincidence, I was just talking about you! I am SSOOOO sorry that you feel you must project any personal problems on to others, what with the name calling and all. The remarks about elections displays your inadequate comprehension of the Electoral College processes and is, indeed, a cry for help. We hear you. We care. We will change the world so it works, and well.... at least 99% of us will feel better. Obviously you won't. but we'll be there for you.
So you do not believe that people should be willing to die for their political and social beliefs.
Wall Street has destroyed too many American lives for the 99% to be so selfish and care only about catching a cold.
Spend your money as wisely as possible. Especially in middle and lower class communities. Check the Fortune 500 list and limit your support of high profit/low labor industries (Hollywood, pro sports, energy, credit, pharmaceutical, cable, satelite, internet advertising, video, and music, cell phone, high fashion, jewelry, ect.). Cancel all but one credit card for emergencies only. Call the provider and demand a lower rate. Be persistent. You may get it. (By the way. I gave this piece of advice long before NBC. I'm not looking for kudos. I'm telling you that NBC is directly affiliated with the credit industry. They could have given you this piece of advice years ago. Instead, they stood by and allowed their parent company, sister companies, and network sponsors to RIP YOU OFF. Even now, they give the occasional 'good guy' financial advice only because they are pressured to do so. They carefully balance every piece of 'good guy' advice with their primary goal to GET YOUR MONEY. Which is why their 'good guy' advice is so often followed by a plug for one of their sister companies, sister channels, network sponsors, or coorporate partners. For example: They tell you to pay down your credit card debt. Good advice. They should have given it years ago. Then, they tell you to GET MORE CREDIT CARDS and use them. Bad advice. One week Jean Chatzky tells you to avoid the 'free credit report' scam because it is always followed by a monthly service charge. Good advice. They should have given it years ago. The following week she stands by as her paid fellow advisor Carmen Wong strongly implies for you to have your credit monitered on a monthly basis and praises a caller for doing so. Bad advice. This is actually a plug for one of their network sponsors, coorporate partners, or parent company. The praise is nothing but a psychological trick. DON'T FALL FOR IT. Don't take ANYTHING they say at face value. Instead, read between the lines. Carefully weigh every piece of 'good guy' advice given against their primary goal. THEY WANT YOUR MONEY.). If you need a cell phone, then do your homework and find the best deal on a local pre-pay. You may be able to get one for as little as $10 a month. Don't text. The charge may seem low at the time but their profit margins are obscene. If you want home internet access, then check for a locally based provider. They can be found in nearly every city nationwide. Otherwise, use the least expensive big name provider, and share accounts whenever possible. If you need to search, then use the less popular search engines. They usually produce about same results anyway. Don't pay for any internet download. Their profit margins for such data transfers are obscene. Don’t pay to see any blockbuster movie. Instead, wait a few months and rent the DVD from a local store, borrow it, or buy it USED. Then loan it to a friend or family member. If you prefer the outing, then choose a film produced by the lesser known studeos with lower paid actors. If you want to see a big name game or event, then watch it in a local bar, club, or at home on network TV. Don’t buy any high end official merchandise and don’t support the high end sponsors. If its endorsed by a big name celebrity, then don’t buy it. If you can afford a new car, then make an exception for GM, Ford, and Dodge. If they don’t increase their market share soon, then a lot more people are going to get screwed out of their pensions and/or benefits. Of course, you must know by now to avoid those big trucks and SUVs unless you truly need one for its utility. Don’t be ashamed to buy a foreign car if you prefer it. Afterall, those with the most fuel efficient vehicles consume a lot less foreign oil. Which accounts for a pretty big chunk of our trade deficit. Its a reasonable trade-off. Anyway, the global economy is worth supporting to some extent. Its the obscene profit margins, trade deficits, and BS from OPEC that get us into trouble. Otherwise, the global economy would be a good thing for everyone. Just keep in mind that the big 3 are struggling and they do produce a few smaller reliable cars. Don’t frequent any high end department store, mall, or any business in a newly developed center or upper class community. By doing so, you encourage greedy developers, make them richer, and draw vital support away from industrial areas and away from the middle and lower class communities. Instead, support the local retailer and the less popular shopping centers. Especially in lower or middle class communities. If you can afford to buy a home, then do so. But go smaller and less expensive. Don’t get yourself in too deep and don’t buy into the newly developed condos or gated communities. Instead, find a modest home in a building or neighborhood at least 20 years old. If you live in one of the poorer states, then try to support its economy first and foremost.
No Brainer! If people had done this in the first place the country wouldn't be in the mess it is in. Most live beyond their means, wants bigger, newer and more of it. So we let our government and big corps do the same.
Be on the lookout for commercial brainwash plots on TV. They are written into nearly every scene of nearly every show. Most cater to network sponsors, coorporate partners, and parent companies. Especially commercial health care. In particular, high profit pharmaceuticals and excessive medical testing. These plugs are countless, calculated, and VERY well written. They have commercial brainwashing down to a science. DON'T FALL FOR IT. Get off the couch and take care of your own body the way nature intended. There is no substitute. If you must see a doctor, then DEMAND that he/she give you more than 5 minutes of their undivided attention. Otherwise, dispute their unreasonable charges. Be prepared with written questions about your condition and get them answered one at a time. If they refuse, then dispute their unreasonable charges. If they prescribe excessive medical testing, then ask if they personally own the equipment or if they are paid a commission for each test. If they find nothing new or signifigant, then dispute their unreasonable charges. If they prescribe a pharmaceutical, then ask for a generic. Better yet, concider a change in lifestyle or simple tolerance. If they still recommend the name brand pharmaceutical, then ask about any financial ties or conflict of interest. If they get offended, then dispute their unreasonable charges and consider a new doctor. If you must drug away your sniffles, worries, jitters, aches, and pains, then at least do your homework. Be aware of the possible side-effects ahead of time. Don't be surprised to find yourself back a week or two later feeling worse. In which case, you should dispute their unreasonable charges. If you are diagnosed with another medical condition, then ask your doctor what he/she has done to rule out those possible side-effects. Otherwise, dispute their unreasonable charges. Don't let any greedy doctor treat you like a number, make you wait an hour, or rush you out of their office. Otherwise, dispute their unreasonable charges. Don't fall for this CRAP that doctors have no choice but to over-book their time or over-charge their patients because of a high overhead. ITS A LIE. YOUR DOCTOR IS MOST LIKELY A MULTI-MILLIONAIRE. The same goes for their bogus claim to over-test so many of their patients because they are afraid of missing something and being sued for it. THAT IS ANOTHER FLAT-OUT LIE. Afterall, if this were true, then it would only explain some of the unnecessary testing. NOT THE OBSCENE CHARGES. It also wouldn't explain their own financial ties directly to the manufacturers of said testing equipment. Thats right. Most doctors hold stock in the very same companies that produce that equipment. Its another conflict of interest. So don't fall for their CRAP. Demand their undivided attention and respect. Afterall, they took an oath. If you have the opportunity before being admitted, then check the record of your hospital. Check to see if they have been investigated or sued for providing unnecessary treatment, excessive medical testing, or fraudulent billing. Dozens have already been caught doing so. Do all of the above regardless of your coverage. Don't force your employer to cover the obscene and often fraudulent charges of a corrupt health care industry. By doing so, you make the problem worse. Keep your guard up when watching ANY talk show. These people are not your friends. They are not your advocates. They are paid actors hired to get your attention and your money. Some of them are also executive producers (Oprah Winfrey, Ellen Degeneres, and Dr Phil.). Nearly every word, smile, and stupid joke is rehearsed ahead of time. Including those which take place so often during what appear to be 'technical oversights' (Today Show. Even their stage hands are mixed in behind the scenes so that you can hear them laugh at every stupid joke.). Its all fake. Its all calculated. These people are not trying to make the world a happy place. They are trying to entertain you only because their marketing studies have shown that you are more likely to drop your guard and support their sponsors. Nearly every segment is about marketing some over-priced product or service. They will use any excuse to plug a gadget, fashion item, travel destonation, credit card, university, drug, medical test, surgical procedure, movie, TV show, book, magazine, song, website, ect. Almost all of it over-priced. Almost all of it resulting in higher profits for their sponsors, partners, and parent companies. DON'T FALL FOR IT.
Big business is fine on occasion depending on their product, ethics, employment, profit margins, and profit sharing. Do your homework. If they are screwing up our economy or society, then don't pay them for it. If you want to support any legitimate charity, then do so directly. Never support any celebrity foundation. Don't be fooled by the sale of baby photos, lies about percentage of income donated, or praise from other well known public figures. Celebrity foundations are CRAP. They spend most of their funding on PR campaigns, exotic travel, and super high end accomodations for themselves. Thats right. Filthy rich public figures have been jet-setting the world in the name of 'humanity' for years. Riding in personal jets, staying in super-exclusive resorts, and living it up in exotic locations around the world the likes of which most people could never afford even if their lives depended on it. They bring along agents, advisors, publicists, hair, make-up, wardrobe, lighting, and photo crews who are also in it for themselves. They are paid six or seven figures for their part to schedule, manage, document, showcase, praise, and publicize the 'good will' of said public figures and their respective industries. Every possible expense is passed of as 'incidental' or 'necessary' and billed right back to some 'foundation' named after said public figure and/or respective industry. Every possible tax deduction is claimed. Which are incredibly vague and diverse thanks to our sold-out government. Deals are cut with major networks who agree to praise the 'good will' or 'humanitarian' effort of said public figures and plug their latest commercial project around the same time. Others from around the world pick up the story and save these industries billions in advertising every year. Resulting in higher profits and paychecks for the 1% club. When its all said and done more wealth is transfered from poor to rich. NOT the other way around. So don't support any charity named after a living celebrity. Don't be fooled or inspired by any photo you see in a magazine, any clip on TV, any affiliation, or any short term short sighted progress report. Instead, go to Charitywatch.org and look up a top rated charity to support your favorite cause. Its all there. For example: 'Habitat For Humanity' is a top rated charity. They have been for many years. They operate with a low overhead, volunteer workforce, and donated materials. They have built homes for the less fortunate in nearly every city nationwide. Including New Orleans. They do so as we speak. No similar effort can match their progress hour for hour or dollar for dollar. So there is no legitimate reason to support a slower, less efficient effort represented by a filthy rich Hollywood actor who flies in on a personal jet, takes most of the credit, and makes a deal with a major network for plugs just days before the premier of his latest film or DVD release. By doing so, you support not only the inefficient effort, but also the filthy rich actor. Concentrating more wealth and dumbing down our society further in the process. Instead, support 'Habitat For Humanity'. Its not perfect. It is affiliated with some big business. However, it is MUCH more efficient, effective, and less corrupt than 'Make It Right'. The difference is profound. In general, support the little guy as much as possible and the big guy as little as possible.
You are brain controlled.. watch http://www.hulu.com/watch/151119/the-end-of-poverty
and try and claim to know anything, i dare you. we'll see whose brainwashed
http://wesower.org
You are brainwashed by the media, watch this media to prove it...
Hmmm, sure you didn't mean to e-mail this to the Hoover Institute? ;)
America needs to stop hitting the snooze button and wake up! Voters eat the bullshit handed to them without even stopping to smell it first.
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well the words " Hope " and " Change " were used in his speeches :)
Besides, Britney spears endorsed him. what else do we need to know?
The jails are full, but asylums have plenty of space.
Don't worry. Rapin' keeps them warm.
Im certainly not here to tear down anyone's movement, but winter is coming up and I feel like I have to say something. This thing is not worth getting hypothermia over. Do what you want, but Im just telling you this isnt worth dieing for. At least if you are going to die for the cause, dont do it by freezing to death or overdosing on drugs.