Forum Post: You guys are terrorists
Posted 12 years ago on Nov. 28, 2011, 4:12 p.m. EST by honest101
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I am of the opinion that some of these Occupy protesters deserve to be pepper sprayed and batoned. Anyone who feels they have to shut down a port, a bridge or an airport to get their way is just as bad as any terrorist out there. Last time I checked the Bill of Rights, it specifically stated peaceful protest. Is resorting to the same tactics as Al Qaeda terrorists peaceful. Believe me, you are lucky I am not a cop because you would receive much more then just a little spray.
You're a fucking idiot if you think shutting down a port, a bridge or an airport to get one's way is just as bad as the behavior of Al Qaeda. Sadly, you don't see that you are the terrorist.
He has a point to a extent. You are in a way a form of terrorism. If you terrorize Michelle Bachman that makes you terrorist. yelling and screaming is violence.
Sorry, asswipe but " shutting down a port, a bridge or an airport", that kind of behavior IS something a terrorist would do.
Boston Tea Party
I think you should read a history book before you make claims like that. The OWS's of the past are what brought civil rights andsafe working conditions for all
Like I wrote, you're a fucking idiot if you think shutting down a port, a bridge or an airport to get one's way is just as bad as the behavior of Al Qaeda.
Well then there is a strong tradition of Americans acting like terrorists in this country. Do you know any history at all? You don't even know what terrorism is.
"resorting to the same tactics as Al Qaeda "
How many people has OWS killed?
"you are lucky I am not a cop"
You are not smart enough to pass the police exam.
Since you are clearly ignorant of the Bill of Rights, here is the First Amendment:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
Flagrant hyperbole.
If you were walking down the street and noticed a group of city officials arresting and handcuffing a couple of youths who were running a lemonade stand on the their front yard, would you walk over and ask what was going on, or would you be a 'good citizen' and mind your own business? If they were your own kids, would you say anything then? If you protested loudly, arguing that they had no right to arrest those kids (yours), because you felt they were doing something heinous and it was something unconscionable that they should be arresting children doing something so innocent as selling lemonade. Let's say the police were nervous and pepper sprayed you - an irate parent - and then tripped you and threw you onto the ground, handcuffing you to 'protect' themselves. Would you still feel they within their rights? It's a possibility, because selling lemonade in such a manner is an offense punishable by either fine and/or arrest under new laws brought about between the government and local corporations to protect their income. Is this acceptable to you? I'd hate to direct my anger against people like you who are 'good sheep' er, citizens. Your duty as an American Citizen is to challenge the system. Your job is to ensure that your rights are not violated. Your job is to ensure that the government serves us, the people that elected, created it. If you don't do these things and everyone else sides with you, maybe we really do need to be 'used' by the system. I pity you...
If we occupy here, we will be heroes! It's the saddest place on earth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQrN4Ehu0EU
http://occupywallst.org/forum/enterprise-rent-a-car-murders-children/#comment-443659
The Revolution starts here!
So? The Boston Tea Party was just a bunch of Al Queda then?
To find out who the real terrorists are you should watch this! It will change your life, I promise you that!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G43zl4fzDQg
Funny, the Crown of England thought the very same things against the American Revolutionaries. Remember the Boston Tea Party?
Haha terrorists I laugh at your paranoia and Irrational Mind
Sounds like you know this first-hand.
This is a peaceful protest by our standards.
That is peaceful, numbskull. This is exactly why we have the constitution, to prevent numbskulls like you from messing things up by revoking rights like you want to do.
OK. There are two parts to this.
First part. Your title is hysterical and sensationalist, nobody is blowing up anything, they're not using "Al Qaeda" tactics, and as large crowds in the street go, the protestors have been pretty well-behaved. They aren't being like this really:
http://www.24dash.com/media/image/2011/03/26/34244/300_Image_protest.jpg
You may just be trying to create a negative association and not really care about the facts, just thinking in terms of positive association for one "brand" and negative association for another "brand" ... if so it will be impossible to have a rational conversation with you. But I always give people the benefit of the doubt, I too do things like that, but I try to catch myself and not think like that. You may be the same - I don't know you (but forgive me for being wary, because so many people think in terms such as I have described these days). Here's hoping you are, and on to the second part of what I have to say, which is a discussion of the more factual parts of your post.
I am of the opinion that some of these Occupy protesters deserve to be pepper sprayed and batoned.
At least you say some and not all. Yes, I think there are times the police need to maintain order.
Anyone who feels they have to shut down a port, a bridge or an airport to get their way is just as bad as any terrorist out there.
This is a valid criticism (except for the rhetorical appeal about "terrorism"). People often feel if they're "in the right" that basically anything goes, if they can get away with it, if they can get support for it. I reject this notion. If it goes for one, it goes for all. Most people wouldn't like it if some political group they disagreed strongly with was blocking bridges and ports to get its way and I don't think this is an appropriate thing for OWS to do.
That being said, I also don't think it's appropriate to call for more violence against the protestors. There should be a measured response. I'm Canadian and the biggest Occupy near me, in Toronto, ended in a way that's quite a bit different than many of the American protests. Most of the protestors obeyed the eviction notice and left. The few who stayed were concerned about their People's Library and what would happen to the books and refused to leave, the police negotiated with them to ensure nothing would happen to their books, once they were assured, they too left peacefully. The police didn't injure anyone, except one guy who was already injured beforehand (they "aggravated" his injury somehow, I'm not sure the details) and only 7 or 8 people had to be arrested.
In the States, what I see is just hysteria on both sides of every argument, and it's always about escalation and calls for more violence. You guys haven't always been like this. I think there is something fundamentally wrong with your society that goes deeper than politics and gets into just basic values of decency and civil behaviour. It is very worrying, because the States has often been a force of social progress, tolerance, respect for human rights and you seem to be losing that. I'm sure your instinctive reaction is to blame a political enemy for that, but I ask you to just stop a minute and think, if that is honestly the cause, or whether its something more universal. Political differences are a good thing. Not everyone has to think the same way, the whole population doesn't have to be converted to a single political ideology, a diversity of opinion is a good thing in a democracy. Calls for violence and escalation to rid the nation of the scourge of this opinion or that opinion (as both the left and right in your country so often seem to do) seem unhealthy and anti-democratic, to me.
Then it would probably be best not to engage in provocation lest some OWSers decide to fly a plane into your house.
Why dont you guys take a bath and find a job?
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Fuck you fascist. We have jobs. Its called being underpaid. Rent, commodities, etc. go up and up and wages are stagnant you tard.
When we bomb civilians in the pursuit of an ideal its not terrorism. It is collateral damage. and many megalomaniac despots have convinced themselves of these ideas.Was the Boston Tea Party an act of terrorism and vandalism of property or a just protest against an iniquitous administration?
I would think that those who use pepper spray and physical violence can properly be called terrorist than those who occupy to prevent the proliferation of unjust practices.
Boston tea party was infact an illegal action an act of terrorism and vandalism. And if I was there in boston harbor and they caught me and used pepper spray on me I would have deserved it,if they first asked me to leave. See I am one of those people when I do wrong especially when I know I am, and I get "jammed" up over it so to speak I blame nobody but me. Thats like those people in jail that say damn its all the cops fault damn its all the d.a.'s fault....what about them for commititng the crime to begin with?
The question of right and wrong has plagued humanity from time dot. Whose right ? It should be obvious from the posts there are opposing views which simply reflect the fractured state of the species.
Obviously also the Boston tea party participants considered it their right as did the English who believed the colonies were for their pleasure and taxation without representation was their God given right. This last sentiment has been used through history to propagate untold miseries.In the US too. That is also obvious in the manner in which one part of society is setting itself against another, now not so much in God's name, but to the idea of capitalism an euphemism for greed.There are methods and solutions that lead to Value Fulfillment and disadvantages no one. Before you say impossible think back to say 50 years ago and the idea of an African American president then. The species is evolving!
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If you blocked my way or my business, then you would get a little more then just some spray. You might be able to get me in the end, but not before I take a few of you out. You are no patriot. Get a job.
Good point honest.....wait want to hear somethimg funny...if they tresspass on your property and threaten you than you stop them violently or in any manner illegally they will put you in jail for it also and PROABLY not them....better even they can now sue you for them doing something illegal and you simply protecting yorself and your property...those laws they like these "occupiers"
Go ahead and trespass on my property Mitch and I will legally confront you with my shotgun. You might be able to swarm me, but not before I take quite a few of you out. Just go ahead and come git it.
Honest wow you really are a troubled person arent you....You must not read or just looking to fight...so far this is the second post where I AGREED with you and you threaten me and agrue with me about it...either you can not read ,do not fully read or just itching to get started with an argument or something. And again I am NOT one of these people who CLAIM to be protesting in a peacful way.
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Epic Fail!!!
Translation: "Burn the witch! Burn the witch!"
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why stop at pepper spray or bludgeons.
just shoot me I say, go ahead.
NB : "... I am not a cop" = COP ! multum in parvo ...
Oh yeah ... and .. "Don't Taze Me Bro' !!" :-o
You sound about as intelligent as our local police. From time to time every nation every nation goes astray and needs to be re aligned to restore balance for all peoples. And from time to time its left to the people to do the right thing. In this nation we are not doing the right thing and as a result measures may need to be taken to put the country on the right path. Shutting down ports as a show of solidarity for the people is not a bad thing. Perhaps you remember life before unions? when your child worked 12 hr days? When you worked 16 hr days and owed the company store your life? Doesn't that sound grand? perhaps you would prefer that? If so there's always China for you. Just think we could all be making .50 cents a day now that would make the 1% happy.
I honestly dont have any of the same issues that you all have. I think you should stop smoking that weed and start job hunting.
You sound like Mrs. Bush when her husband was in Office. When she asked why all those people in New Orleans didn't jump into their SUV's and move to the nearest campground to escape the Katrina Hurricane. How clueless can the 1% get? You are an obvious example... stop posting now and save some brain matter. Before making statements, read and check out stuff that's posted hereon. If it's false, you can come back and let us have it. But since you are an idiot that blindly parrots the establishment... Pfft! You ain't worth a piss to most of us.
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honest101..very true...do you (not you perse) that a main goal of a terrorist is to disrupt the normal everyday life and function of those he considers his enemy, and sometimes those that are not his enemy(colateral damage)He wants to get his views and point across to those who do not listen to him so he acts out in a disruptive way. The only difference between islamic extremist terrorist is they believe they are doing it in the eyes of their god so they are not doing wrong when they kill with their acts of violence and disruption. Another words they just add intentional killing to their terrorist acts,so far that is not part of this "peaceful protest", yet!
When you say "peaceful protest"...are you trying to convince yourselves?
honest, be carefu,l I am agreeing with you...read what i said before trying to argue against it....peaceful protest is a tad bit of sarcasm if you read the post.
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Did you just compare Islamic terrorists with Occupy protesters? The only difference is a belief in God? What about the fact that Occupy protesters haven't killed anyone? Does that matter? Internet connections should be illegal in trailer parks.
P.S....Glaucon, No trailer park here by the way ...its called Park Slope in Brooklyn,N.Y. far cry from trailer park. And from what I hear some trailer parks are ALOT better than other places in the world,I do not know but such places as india or indonesia,just as an example.BTW where are you from?
Bali, Indonesia rocks as far as I'm concerned. And the rest of Indonesia is pretty damn cool too. I'd live there any day before the States. Sorry, just being honest. We all have different tastes. The people are awesome. And the weather is perfect. It's a little paradise.
I'm from Canada.
Glaucon maybe you should read the whole post not just what you WANT to read... you are a typical protestor wanting to jump into something without getting all the details,reading only the PARTS that they want to reply to,argue about,not getting the full story...see people who do that are usually people that as kids as teens shunned by their peers,social misfits(usually they become musicians or as they call it artist) maybe a little low self esteem,inferiority complexs thrown in and have this need just to be part of something,anything.
This is what was said the whole thing "...The only difference between islamic extremist terrorist is they believe they are doing it in the eyes of their god so they are not doing wrong when they kill with their acts of violence and disruption. Another words they just add intentional killing to their terrorist acts,so far that is not part of this "peaceful protest", yet!...."
don't fall in the trap. this protest is sticking up for the poor. this guy is in a comfy office while his wife is fkn the guy in the trailer park.
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