Forum Post: would you let a republiclan drive your car?
Posted 11 years ago on May 19, 2013, 11:37 a.m. EST by bensdad
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I wouldn't let a rethuglican walk my dog.
Ahhh - so have not trained you dog to pee on the RIGHT leg ?
I don't actually own a dog but if I did, I wouldn't let a rethuglican walk him.
Everything is relative I guess. Republicans sure are a nasty bunch, but when one sees US from the outside, the Democrats also appear as a right wing party. The just look tame in comparison with Republicans. But, compare Democrats with left wing parties in other countries and they really are right wingers.
Wait till the Ayn Randers come knocking.
Compare Rethuglicans with the antichrist.
The problem is a lot of Americans use the evil of the Republicans to make the Democrats look good. Anything looks good compared to Republicans. You see this problem on this site a lot. People praising Obama because his party is not as bad as the Republicans. They forget OWS was started during Obama reign and that it was started by anarchists, not Democrats. But yeah, this site has become a Democrat site always pushing partisan politics. Republicans are no where near the ideals of OWS, but, actually, Democrats aren't either. They are right wingers too.
Personally, Democrats scare me more than Republicans. Republicans are just dumb and evil. Most people see right though them. Democrats are sneakier and a lot of OWS "supporters" get tricked by them. This is dangerous. It's easy to attack Republicans. It takes no effort since their evils are so damn obvious. It ends up leading nowhere. Attacking Obama on this site, well, that's not easy. The Obama water boys will be all over you. You can remind them that you're an anarchist and much further left than Obama will ever be, they don't get it.
If the Democrats were fantastic, we wouldn't need OWS.
BS.
Show me the dems pushing this kind of shit!!
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/05/20/2035411/virginia-gop-nominee-for-attorney-general-would-force-women-to-report-their-miscarriages-to-police/
Their biggest problem is they aren't as organized and lack things like SPN and ALEC.
There's no doubt Republicans are much worse than Democrats, but that does not mean Democrats are good. Both parties are bad for America. We need another system. Don't forget, OWS started when Obama was already in office. The protest is needed because Obama is not giving us what we want which are fair and effective social programs for all.
A Dem cut my taxes and made them permanent by way of the State constitution.
Teabagge(R)s fucked that all up and now I pay through the nose, so they could give ANOTHER tax break to corporations.
Please show me the Dem equivalent of the SPN and ALEC.
If you can't?
STFU.
If you like the Democrats so much, why take part in a protest that is against them as well as being against Republicans, and all political parties? Occupy is anti-establishement. Why not participate on a Democrat website instead? It seems to me you have a lack of integrity. Are you for OWS, or for the Democrats? You can't have it both ways. Obama is corrupted by the 1% just as much as Romney.
So, you can't find an equivalent?
That's interesting.
Do you defend rapists in the same way you defend the Democrats. They aren't that bad because some people do a lot worse like gruesome murders. When the rapist goes to court does the judge ask the prosecution to show that the crime is equivalent to that of a gruesome murder?
Again, being better that Republicans doesn't mean being good. It mans little at all. You shouldn't compare Obama to the bottom of the barrel and then give accolades if he's floating a tad above. You should compare him to what would be fair and just for the whole populace.
You can't even find an equivalent? WTF is wrong with you?
Oh, jeeze, you're a paid to post right wing shill. Lemme pat you on your little head.
I don't think there is an equivalent to how evil the Republicans are, but, unlike you, I don't think this means Obama is doing a great job and that the Democrats are a good party. Comparing to the bottom of the barrel leads to nowhere. You need to compare to the greatest heights you can imagine. And, the Democrats are nowhere near that greatest height I imagine. It's 2013, great amazing things could be done with a proper political system. Obama does not offer that, hence the OWS anti-Obama protests.
pat ; Pat ; PAT !!!
pat ; Smack ; SPLAT !!
As per GF's recommendation !
Also, wouldn't you be better off sticking to one moniker, you 'anarcho-cynicalist' you, lol ?!
verum ex absurdo ...
Nice try to spin though. We'll just pat you on your little right wing shill multiple ID head.
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Logical fallacy!!
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/05/20/iowa-senate-republican-staffer-fired-after-reporting-sexual-harassment/
Show me the equivalent of the SPN.
Show me the equivalent to ALEC.
Your failure to do so, is a failure of you to defend your position.
If you can't defend it? STFU.
It's easy............................:)
http://cache0.bigcartel.com/product_images/70932347/DSC_0565.jpg
Your God, not the God of OWS.
How does that answer the questions?
It doesn't, yet it begs another one.
Have you always considered national leaders as Gods?
Just for the record. I don't.
Yet his shows that YOU do.
Did you consider Blair your God when he was in office?
How about Berlusconi?
That's the most twisted attempt at evasion you've made so far.
So about those questions you haven't answered?
They just keep building up.
Are you changing the subject???
Yes, you are.
You didn't answer the question, let alone the challenge.
Can you STFU now?
Obama did many bad things. Read a newspaper. I won't bother listing then all here. Here's a few clues concerning what OWS is all about.
http://occupyamerica.crooksandliars.com/diane-sweet/arrests-anti-obama-protest-university-
http://www.buzzfeed.com/gavon/18-anti-obama-signs-from-occupy-wall-street
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/occupy-wall-street-protesters-anti-obama-plan-skip-2012-election-fordham-poll-finds-article-1.970614
Yes, it's true. Occupy has anti Obama protests.
Where's the equivalent to the SPN?
Where's the equivalent to ALEC?
I have no issue with protesting Obama.
I just want you to respond to the questions asked of you.
So far?
You are a failure.
Complete and utter.
The Democrats don't need to be as bad as the Republicans to be bad. They aren't good, and that's why OWS organizes many anti-Obama protests.
ah, look at you. You're with the if not one than obviously the other multiple ID crew. How sweet.
Will you answer the questions?
Please?
Your continued use of logical fallacies is unwarranted.
Please show the equivalent.
Or admit that you have failed and STFU.
Will you begin to insult people instead?
Don't.
You see, you and I both know that there is no shortage of Obama attackers on this site. You are also aware that there aren't too many that defend him. Now, if you call the right wing spin for what it is there are all kinds of people who defend the spin.
Why is that?
Now, what ulterior motive might they have?
How many IDs might they have?
I don't think many right wingers attack this site. That's a fantasy. There might be a few trolls, but not much more. In any case, they are easily dismissed because their line of thinking is so far removed from OWS principles. They are not worth addressing. I just ignore them.
The real danger is Obama water boys who want to turn OWS into another front for the Democrats. These people are taken more seriously by many members here who fail to understand what OWS is all about.
Yes, it is obvious that you ignore them as you do under all of your prior IDs.
Why is that?
The danger is in the Art V right wing shills. :D
Why are you afraid of right wing shills? Do you think the occupiers on this site and in the street are easily manipulated into adopting right wing ideas? I don't. Most occupiers are well educated. They don't fall for right wing nonsense.
Why do you support right wing shills? Why are you a right wing shill? Why have you sold out the American people for cash?
:D
I don't support them, I ignore them. Their ideas are too evil and stupid for me to address them. I don't debate pathetic clowns.
You don't really debate at all under any of your IDs. :D
Not with users like yourself who just attack others and use name calling as a primary weapon. There's a few intellectuals here I debate with.
It's just lil' old Thrass wannabe, the right wing shill, in another failed disguise.
Hi there, Thrass wannabe! How you doin'?
You have multiple IDs and the right wing shills that pat you on your little head.
They don't deserve the attention. Their ideas are so laughable and evil that they don't require counter-arguments. Some people debunk the likes of Kent Hovind, I think it's an absolute waste of time. They debunk themselves. Most people here are left wingers, they certainly won't be affected by a right winger with extreme ideas. The best solution against such trolls is to simply ignore them. They'll get bored and leave.
The Obamapologists are a different story. They have managed to co-opt this Occupy website. This is a real shame.
The shame is the Libertopians that have attempted to coopt the site. You don't attack them because you support them. :D
No, I support anarcho-communism. I don't attack them because it's a waste of time. Occupiers are not fooled by neo-liberals. They have no chance to co-opt this place. Their views are too far removed from Occupy. I go by the assumption that occupiers are not dumb enough to fall for that. If you think they pose a danger, then, by all means, spend your time attacking them.
No, I doubt you actually do. Why else would you need so many IDs?
Do you have links to prove your accusations?
What about the Libe(R)topiapologists?
What about FLAKESnewsopologists?
What kind of pologist are you????
No need for links. The readers can see for themselves who on this website tries to co-opt OWS into a pro-Obama front. Right wing shills, neo-liberals,etc.. have no chance to corrupt this place, so I don't care about them. I favor anarcho-communism in the vein of OWS.
Yes.
You've made an accusation.
You didn't prove a thing.
Links are very necessary.
You didn't respond to a single question asked of you.
So what kind of pologist did you say were?
I favor anarcho-communism in the vein of OWS.
The Twinkle Team are here to co-opt this site into an Obama front. Simply read their postings and comments. The always defend Obama as if he were their savior.
What's a twinkle team??
Will you prove your accusations now, as you've just added another?
Any attempt will seen as acting in good faith.
Just mouthing such things is some kind of logical fallacy, don'tcha know.
Proof matters.
I guess that would make you a "right wing" troll then, by your own definition.
How do you feel about unions?
What's your take on FLAKESnews?
I don't watch US news, it's all corrupted and controlled by the 1%. Unions are fine, but the real goal is anarcho-synicalism wherein workers own the factory themselves. I believe in anarcho-communism, much like OWS proposes.
Really?
What do you watch, and where do you watch it?
Do hate that OWS supports unions and unionization, in spite of what you say?
I'm fine with co-ops but traditional unions are still VERY important.
a co-op can still be easily manipulated by Wallstreet.
I usually watch news programs from europe, and debates by scholars.
Co-ops are better than unions.
That was generic and uninformative.
Have you always had problems with honesty?
Co-ops can be manipulated easily by WallStreet and the commodities marketeers.
So far they work best in small companies, rather than large corporations.
Unions work much better in those organizations at this point in time.
So why do HATE that OWS supports traditional unions too?
I don't hate that OWS supports unions.
So just skip most of the questions then?
What are you afraid of?
You just said co-ops were better.
No explanation.
No response to what I said about how they are more easily manipulated.
Have you considered that a strong farm workers union would be much more effective at fighting Monsanto?
Perhaps some love for the Teamsters is in order.
Some love for the UAW?
Some love for the AFL-CIO?
Your response was once again generic and uninformative.
Unimaginative even.
"it's all corrupted"
generalizations make thinking unnecessary
it worked well in the American south in the 1800s &
in Germany in the 1930s
Aw gimme a break. This thread is a hate fest. Totally counterproductive. Nothing is accomplished by name calling and berating anyone. And no, I’m not a conservative.
Remember liberals and conservative are split pretty much down the middle, 50%, give or take a couple of points depending on the hot topic of the day. That’s a lot of people to hate. You can hate corrupt politicians, greedy corporations and a rigged Wall Street. But to hate tens of millions of people because of their political and social views just makes things worse. They are your friends, neighbors and co-workers. They have families, jobs and a life other than their political view. Yes, we should try to change their views, but name calling doesn’t do anything.
I’ll say it again, I’m liberal. (and a gun owner). Does that make me the enemy also? I just believe belittling good people because of their political views is wrong.
seriously - I DO NOT HATE
( maybe cheney & atwater & rove are exceptions )
seriously - are there any R pols in Washington you support? and why?
Pfftttt.........
Only if he gave me all his guns in exchange for the ride. I'd then melt them so they could never be used again.
But, you know, in America, Democrats are also right wingers when compared to left wing parties in other countries. They just look tame when compared with Republicans.
frankly, I dont vote D or R or I
I vote for electable candidates who will help America
I can name many D or I that can help America and stand for things I believe in
I would vote for an R who supported women's rights, cutting the military, restoring Glass-Steagle, ending the filibuster, taxing the 1%, votes against the ryan type of budget
Republicans only let responsible people drive their cars. They would never ever let an Occupier even come close to their car for fear of stinking it up
Everyone knows that Occupiers don't bathe, they don't take care of things they own, and have a tendency to abandon what they have looking for something new to waste money on.