Forum Post: ***Winter Need*** Outdoor Patio Gas Heaters
Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 28, 2011, 12:48 p.m. EST by WarmItUp
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Please send or bring large outdoor patio gas heaters. It is starting to get cold. The stand-up outdoor patio kind like restaurants are allowed to use. The ability of occupiers to stay warm will determine if this occupation continues. The media is already talkin about occupations thinning out because of the cold. See link below for an example of safe legal heaters (there are cheaper ones than this but you get the idea) Get a group of friends to all chip in on one of these.
http://www.homegardenandpatio.com/cat.cgi?s=WTL-01775&c=patio_heaters_stainless_steel
The media is focusing on how two people got hypothermia in Denver. This can not be what the media is covering we need the focus back on the messages of Corporate greed and the growing financial inequality not the details of how we are going to heat ourselves.
bigger tents for meetings
Somebody ask Micheal Moore or those MTV bums
As long as this movement stays camped up at Zuccotti Park and other locales, it will go nowhere. Time to back up the tents and get organized for the elections next year. If you want real change, it will happen at the polls by telling our leaders that they either change their point of view or they join in on the unemployment line. Want to get big money out of politics, show the politicians that you're a huge voting block and will vote for or against a candidate en masse, like the NRA, the Tea Party, the anti-abortion crowd. These right wing organizations have sway in politics because they can deliver votes. The left in this country has nothing of the sort. Rachel Maddow and Ed Shultz bitching about their right wing counterparts is not gonna cut the mustard. Get real, get organized, get structure and you will get results (you may even surprise yourself how much you have in common with right wingers who hate big money as well). Otherwise, all this movement will be remembered is for having the Guinness book of world records for most annoying drum circle.
I m sick of Rachel Maddow and Ed Shultz they are part of the problem .... But what if Rachel Maddow and Bill O'reilly had common cause against a political elitist ? Instead of yelling pass each other they came to a consensus or compromise ?
I understand that many are suggesting this, as is logical if your goals are 2012, We are not looking to 2012 but to 2021 a ten year view and beyond. We are firmly against politicizing this movement, for the sole reason politics is polarizing, we are a movement of inclusiveness. We are not aligned with the left as many are suggesting we are not a mirror image of the Tea Party by any sense. We are marching with conservative grandmothers who are just concerned for the future of their grand children. This is not about electing a new leader, current politics does not represent 99% of the people. Whoever gets the most money from corporations always wins, especially this election now that corporations can now donate unlimited funds to candidates. We are not trying to "get organized" we are firmly against any organization under one person. This is an inclusive movement which seeks to give a voice to 99% of the american people. I am an independent. not a left wing nut. I am interested in this country being more conservative about spending, but I am also interested in this country being more liberal about social/civil issues. There is no candidate who fits this profile. So to try to lump everyone into one group behind one candidate would be the opposite of what we are trying to do. The change will come as the people listen to each other as the civil debates begin to happen on the streets, not the media controlled debates. A real public forum ios happeining, people are meeting people with differing views and actually listening ot each other for a change. The politicians have tried to divide us with hot button issues like gay rights or abortion. We will not yield to divisive political strategies. We are united under one commonality that is 99% of Americans have not had a voice for too long. Regular Americans left, right and center can all agree on this. We have a long term view we are shifting the consciousness of society to see that the only way to have a true democracy is to engage the public who normally has no voice. True democracy is not supposed to be pretty and organized, it is supposed to be inclusive and representative of the people not corporate interests like it is now.
They took away the generators are you sure this is legal?
They will not remove gas heaters. they will bust you for an open ground fire or a fire in a garbage can which will most likely happen if other les dangerous methods of heating are not in place. Could you imagine the great publicity we would get if police were filmed removing our heat source. Even the NYPD wouldn't do that. Fear of having heaters removed is not a reason to not prepare to keep people safe and warm
I was under the impression that they're removing generators from Zuccotti Park right now?
Homeless people are not allowed to set up tents and heat them with gas heaters. Not out of discrimination against the homeless, but for obvious safety reasons. Why would the situation be any different in Zuccotti Park?
I am buying one with a group of friends and plan on sharing the warmth. But we definitely need more than one. Two people got hypothermia in Denver.
Can't #OWS just buy them with all the donation money thats sitting in a bank probably earning interest?
YOU ARE A TROLL! IGNORE ALL RUMORS THAT THIS IS AN ORGANIZATION WITH A FINANCE DEPARTMENT. this is simply not true. this is a "disorganization", a people's movement that intentionally has no leader and no financial department. It started with no money and will go on even if there is no financial support. Civil disobedience costs nothing.
OK "WarmItUp" - so pardon me being uninformed/uneducated about OWS. True or False - has OWS recieved money as donations towards the cause? If so - where is it all? Sitting in a piggy bank at the park?
That's a great Idea. I think I'll get a couple.... for my backyard. You freeloaders can buy your own.