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Forum Post: Why Occupy Doesn't Seem to be working Effectively

Posted 12 years ago on Nov. 27, 2011, 5:03 p.m. EST by kendallo101 (0) from Austin, TX
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Hey. Its interesting the feedback i have observed on these forums for the last few weeks. this whole occupy thing is becoming a headache. people should unite, because people should agree. the lack of solidarity is appaling even after staying at the occupy austin for a month. people digress in their individual liberties of free individual opinion, when that is a transgressional measure, and the transgression of people upon eachother seems unrelenting. and its not that way cause i'm refusing to solve my problems with fucking yoga. but seriously, transcendence is the level of being we have always needed from our leaders to solve the largest conflicts and disagreements of the past. and while it is one lack of accepted agreement, or a billion, it seems the effect is the same, and in this context i am refering to peoples mainstreams culture, many people of which call them selfs occupiers and strike members, utterly lack sustained transparency. its like a buddha who can sustain and maintain alpha waves in there brain through concentration alone because they have focus and practice and dont ingest copious amounts of sugar and or caffine. so yeah, your idea rocks socks, but until there is more people trying to maintain a intirely transparent open forum such as i am trying to do in this responce, while "it", whatever "it" is, may happen, the odds right now seem to me quite bleak. We have money that isn't worth shit and i can go talk to fucking ministry pasters and they'll act more ignorant to the truths of the present than a wallstreeter. and its appalling. we need decentralization, and i don't mean lack there of, in terms of centralized trading. i'm not pushing off my opinion on you, but i kinda am. if there is this thing called wallstreet where instead of having 50 individual trading posts, we have one, and the persons who work at wallstreet doesn't really have to give a shit about Joe Blows product value in regards to Joe Blows community inviorment and economy in another city in another state, because wallstreet worker doesn't work, much less labor, in Joe Blows city or state to produce the goods and services being traded, than where, how, and whence does it become practical for separate state wallstreet worker to have a regulatory effect on Joe Blows goods and services on a international level instead of a state community grassroots level?? it doesn't. especially since we now have this magic little communication super network called the internet. so i say every state deserves a wallstreet.not just New York, NY. but really its absurd for us to continue to agree with using a inflative, privatized, non U.S.national, seemingly treasonous currency, lacking a wordly lifelike standard and regulation, yet apathy for such seems hammered like nails into the consciousnesses of the multitude of people living in our nation and it seems that many people would assume push society to the point of catstrophy like all of the empires of the past rather than get dirt under there fingernails fixin shit. great idea, its pretty sweet, but this shit as gotten so lousey to my humble perspective if i possess such, Legion needs to get off there happy asses and if they are with this movement and do have any brains, need to fuck shit up, and bring wallstreets feet out from under them and give people a taste of the reality they have covered in sweets and salt and fats to have a taste not so bland, and not so bitter as the taste of nessesity to nuture life itself meaning people rather than persons. so actually screw your idea, and sorry if you hate me for saying so, but i have somehow been rude and burn't all the bridges i have tried to make with people involved with this movement, because people seem to be thinking with syrup rather than wine, and honestly it disqusts me to my stomach, and i might seem stoopid saying this, but seriously our technology has far exceeded our humanity, and super heros don't seem to exist, and wallstreet crooks/ criminals continue to delegate the world through what seems to be a cancerous tumor on our markets internationally and individuals many of which fighting the cancer we call wallstreet like continue to think like persons rather than people. have a nice day. hope it rains, i like the sun, but our grounds are stained. peace

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[-] 1 points by CmdKC (8) 12 years ago

Wow very moving and your statements are powerful I loved the comment about yoga in the park. i cant say much cause OWS admins love banning me for my voice but I support you and if you ever need a solider of peace Please just contact I'm ready to have the march of all marchs

[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 12 years ago

agreed, its a big stinking mess and that mess is only likely to get sorted out if we can get some organization as per on a wiki.

http://occupythiswiki.org/wiki/Main_Page

[-] 1 points by arthurftemple (4) 12 years ago

This poem is about the Grace Tax Commission and the biggest hoodwink of all time.

The main complaint of the Occupy Wall Street Protestors to date is that there is no message to be said. The message, which follows these words, shall be repeated until the world restores her original fate, unity through diversity and an end to all hate. Occupy Wall Street and protestors around the world, chant this statement: “Put an End to the Federal Reserve!”

[-] 1 points by randart (498) 12 years ago

Sorry about this. I am not trying to attack you because I agree with much of what you said but you need to read a book called "Revising Prose" (I can't remember the author.) It is an easy to read book and your arguments will be taken more seriously.

[-] 0 points by ChristopherABrownART5 (46) from Santa Barbara, CA 12 years ago

kendallo101 wrote: Hey. Its interesting the feedback i have observed on these forums for the last few weeks. this whole occupy thing is becoming a headache. people should unite, because people should. END-----

Yes. I've been working to create the understanding that if they are not going to unite under a leader, they need to do it under a concept which everyone agrees upon. Therein is the problem. The educational system had an agenda that removed an awareness of the constitution, natural law, freedom, law, justice and due process. What has been taught is the uses of cognitive distortions in group thinking within a form of Euro socialism that end up with incomplete strategies and conclusion that free speech is for complaining.

Not that it isn't, but if ones uses are limited to that in this political situation, expect a fail. Pitiful when a good part of the nation KNOWS there is something seriously wrong but needs to see focus on completly lawful and peaceful revolution. Article 5 of the US constitution provides that.

Article. V.

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.

Lessig power point on article V http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gpbfY-atMk

Lots of facts here about Article V. http://algoxy.com/poly/article_v_convention.html

Article V conference, Lawrence Lessig at harvard 9/25/11-other attendee video comments http://vimeo.com/31464745