Forum Post: Why does NO ONE respect my womens study degree?
Posted 12 years ago on Nov. 28, 2011, 10:38 p.m. EST by OccupyHippys
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I spent thousands of dollars on it. Now NO ONE HIRES ME. Why does no one respect my education?
I've been studying women for a long time and never gotten paid for it.
I learnt my womens studies on the street, now all the women want to hire me ;^)
Do a report on how Enterprise tried to sweep the death of these two kids under the rug because they don't value women.
http://occupywallst.org/forum/enterprise-rent-a-car-murders-children/#comment-443659
The Revolution starts here!
There's not much you need to know about chicks, that's why. 4 years is way to much. You only need to know the following:
When they ask you: Does this dress make me look fat? The answer is always, no.
Additionally they are they are the happiest when flat on their backs and knees in the air.
I recently got arrested and the investigator and his partner gave me the THIRD degree. It wound up costing me thousands of dollars. Now no one wants to hire me! Why does no one respect my education ('cause, brother, let me tell you. It sure was one!)?
I do.... Now you can never say that again....
A womens studies degree is considered as a supplementary qualification, not a primary, so for example, you could easliy get a job with any of the following combination examples: Medicine+womens studies(WS), management+ WS, the main one would be psychology +WS.. etc etc
secondly, it is considered as a foundation of bias, even half of women feel that womens studies doesn't give a balanced viewpoint to learn history, or anything else, not to mention men, who mostly just don't care, now, that's a more complex point,
MOST men DON'T see women as superior or inferior, MOST MEN DON"T CARE, most men live by the philosophy of that which is the base for womens studies, equality, now womens studies gives you world events from a female perspective, that is not the perspective of fundamental truth, it is one side of the story, eg:
ask any Muslim woman, why they are oppressed in sharia law, they will tell you that it is only because the women are TOO powerful, they follow different rules in their society so that they are brought down (yes opressed) to the same level as men.
Now, why won't they hire you? employers generally want someone who is compliant, a womens studies degree acts as a big flag to an employer, saying that if they make a decision in which you have to compromise anything, you are going to make a big fuss about it
who want's to hire someone who knows all about equality and inequality, when the business hires Mexicans to clean their floors and Indians to clean their toilets!
That is one of the most ridiculous and outrageous comments on this board. My wife is a muslim women. She just read it and doesn't agree. I live in a muslim country, and I don't agree. Irshad Manji is a muslim women who has devoted her entire life to fighting the repression of women in Islam. Again, ridiculous comment that only someone without education could make. You should study history before saying such nonsense.
Was it the same case with African Americans? They were killed by the KKK because they had too much power over white people and stabilization was in order? It was a nice and dandy way to reach equilibrium?
Why does NO ONE respect my engineering degree? I spent thousands of dollars on it. Now NO ONE HIRES ME. Why does no one respect my education?
Did you get the degree so that you'd have greater demand on the market or simply for yourself? If the latter, you will have to show how it helped you in a way that will contribute more to their needs.
In any case, easy solution: don't say you have a women's studies degree. Put on your resume "Bachelor of Arts, Liberal Studies" degree and leave it at that.
Why does NO ONE respect my business administration degree? I spent thousands of dollars on it. Now NO ONE HIRES ME. Why does no one respect my education?
No offense, but it's women's study, not womens study. Womens isn't a word.
I will point out, though, OccupyHippies, that both you adn I -- along with a lot of others -- made our choices. We had the same chance to choose a degree in IT or business or some lucrative field. We chose something that was of interest to us and we ahve to accept responsibility for it.
I know you're not talking about a CEO position or anything like that -- you just want A JOB -- something to pay the bills. But when we study something that is of deep meaning to us, we do so because of a fulfillment that has nothing to do with money or position.
I might suggest you look outside the box, though -- try something like AmeriCorps or the Peace Corps to get yourself started. You might also look in the nonprofit sector -- we who work there aren't as hung up on specific degrees as the corporate world. At least for the most part, we value dedication and flexibility in thinking as much as anything else.
Apply for positions with women advocate groups and organizations. Women's shelters, and other social service organizations which focus on issues related to women.
Volunteer at these places in order to build experience and get first-hand knowledge of the issues facing women right now. Upon being immersed in that field you will not only make connections and learn hands-on skills, but you will also learn the jargon and demands within the field which you can then use to craft a more effective resume.
Upon graduating from University my resume was a mess because I knew almost nothing about the particulars of the field I choose. Upon working on small projects, interning, and working with clients directly I learned many things which helped to craft a resume which has recruiters calling me for once.
While few if any of the recruiter calls turn into something long-term, the fact that my resume is garnering this attention is a testament to how far I've come in the years since graduating.
Sure I've had to flip burgers, moonlight, and work crazy hours to do it, but I'm moving forward everyday. Keep your chin up, it can be hard and devastating but you're lucky enough to have a degree that allows you to help the community while building useful experience within the social services field.
Volunteer at your local soup kitchen or homeless shelter, there are women there. Volunteer at a nursing home and listen and learn all you can from residents and staff. By giving back and helping the community around you, you will feel good about what you're doing, and that experience in addition to your degree will make employers respect your drive and ambition at the very least. If you're lucky and persistent it may even lead to employment. Don't give up, you've made it this far just go a bit further.
EDIT: If you need a job to eat, while doing this downplay your education on your McJob applications. Try to bypass the application process and instead speak directly to the hiring manager. If you can sell them on hiring you before you fill out an application you'll never be just another application, you'll be the person who they talked to, who they remembered, and who they want to work with. If you do this well, filling out an application will just be a formality.
I guess for the same reason no one respects my English degree -- LA degrees aren't valued becaue we live in a culture of specialization. Broad, holistic knowledge and learning are not of high value because those who make hiring decisions aren't normally capable of thinking outside their narrow, dimly lit box (and, yes, there are exceptions).
But the broader question is, why does our country not value a lot of different areas of knowledge? Why are teachers not valued? Why aren't historians, sociologists, musicians and artists, and a royal list of very learned people?
The bottom line is . . . well, the bottom line. People with LA desgrees and broad-based learning can be easily fit into a pigeon hole or "evaluated." Knowledge such as ours is very difficult to quantify, and if it can't be quantified, it can't be packaged. If it can't be packaged, there's no profit in it.
With a degree in women's studies, I'm assuming you got your education at a liberal arts college? If so, you can USE the diversity of studies to help in creating your resume or CV without focusing on the women's studies, specifically. Does your college have a career services office? Contact them for help in marketing yourself when you apply and interview. It's a valid field of study, just hard to apply to real world jobs currently. That'll change.. Good luck!
I've applied all over my city in any job that opens up. Everywhere I have interviewed tells me my degree is worthless.
Is it from an accredited school?
Why would a man hire someone who's been studying how much men suck?
Being, s I am, a man, (and one who has supported women's issues since the 1960s) I don't entirely agree with you, but you do have a point. I find it astounding that so many men STILL fear a stgrong, confident and capable woman!
I will point out that I ahve seen another side to it. In fact, I just lost a job because (according to my boss who is a woman) the woman who fired me was intimidated by me being not only the only man in the organization, but one who had solid, workable ideas that she didn't think of.
I think there probably is more bias on the part of men towards women, but bigotry and intolerance is everywhere.
We don't fear women - we fear the police women call.
LMAO!!!
you could always get a job teaching women's studies to future professors of women's studies.
other than that, you got nothing.
This is obviously facetious
What about men? Men are getting abused all the time, prison, etc. I am a man, and i fight for men's rights now. There needs to be more mens rights.
the internet says "because the field still is relatively new, many people in the corporate world do not understand it. That means Women's Studies majors must work harder to make themselves viable job candidates.
Read more: How to Find Jobs With a Women's Studies Degree | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how_2093915_find-jobs-womens-studies-degree.html#ixzz1f3vTomC9
A women's degree program is a turn off to most men. You will probably do better interviewing with women and being involved in women's businesses
good luck!
I'm a man too, and somehow I really wouldn't compare what happens in prison to the topic here. After all, women's prisons are just as much jungles as men's.
As far as men's rights, a short survey of history will make it extremely clear that men ahve always had rights, moreso than women, so I don't think we men have a lot of room to complain if women want to ahve the same as we have. Too many men see women's rights as threatening. I don't understand this. HOw is it a threat to me if a woman makes the smae as I make for the same work? How is it a threat to me if she has the same right to a job as I do or a promotion? If I ahve comfidence in my own abilities -- which I do -- I don't ahve to fear anyone else, man or woman. It's only if I am insecure that I have anything to fear.
But, you see, we're looking at things in the wrong way here: it sholdn't be a matter of women's rights vs men's rights anymore than it should be defined by race or religion or ethnicity. If we simply stop creating these divisions ourselves adn think of Human Rights, the problem is solved.
i am referring to that abstract cultural problem in the USA and elsewhere where men are disrespected much more today than in the past, and until now, until a few years ago, men were not ruling their homes. Men are ruling their homes again now. The http://www.fatherlessgeneration.org is real. There is a real problem for some American cultures with the abuse of men's rights to govern themselves and handle themselves as men, be able to fight for their rights, without getting arrested.
Personally, I agree with you - i am not bothered by "women's rights" anymore.... but I used to be in a position where my family and home were threatened by women's rights. But no more. Its a personal story, one I wont discuss, but the same story as millions of others.
I will tell you honestly, I thought the men's rights stuff was a bunch of cruel false equivalency, whining, etc etc.
But having lived a few more years, had a son and seen my brother go through a horrible, spiteful divorce (with children involved) - I now accept that there needs to be people talking about and advocating for men's rights.
Its terrible, but after many years of hating firearms I had to purchase some because of work. I trained at a school, next to cops. When everyone found out I had firearms - I got respect - no more disrespect - isn't that sad and pathetic? Sometimes I can't believe I am part of THIS human race...
Well, I appreciate and respect your privacy, but I really don't know how men are deprived of any rights. Of course, I can infer (perhaps incorrectly) tha your situation might pertain to one of marriage and divorce. In that area I am not qualified to speak autoritatively since I have been neither.
And you may be referring to something ar different than I imagine, as well. I rfer to the societal/politial/commerical aspect of rights and it sounds like you may be referring to something more personal. In that case, I accept that you may have a point.
What kind of a job are you looking to get with it?
Is there a field that caters specifically to women?
Which jobs are you applying for?
You might enjoy teaching. You can start as a volunteer to read story books for the children as assistant to the teacher then gradually move ahead, get a postgrad in education. Spread the flame of OWS among the new generation.
You could be an advocate at a woman's shelter. Then write a book about your time there.
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What marketable skills do you have? I am not that much smarter than the average college graduate, but I am somewhat smarter - good thing I skipped that whole high school thing, Your degree has nothing to do with the profit motives of modern corporations. If you wanted to be employed for your degree, you should have majored in physical chemistry or, at least, pre-law.
You could be a prostitute, I'm sure your womans study degree taught you that it's the oldes occupation. You would be able to recite women study related facts while giving your services.
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I'm not sure if you're trolling with that or not, but if you're serious we'll try this. It has nothing to do with respect. Employers pay for what helps them. They don't see the value in the degree you got to them. I wouldn't call my dentist if my sink was leaking, not a matter of respect, I just don't see his education as valuable to me in that situation.
At least people respond to your posts. My posts seem to be blacklisted!
Troll.
Only 2 out of 20 know this. That makes me sad.
Wonderful! Are you from the government?
Do you have one iota of a sense of humor left in you?
Obviously I do. I'm on this website.
Because it's not in a technical field? What career does one strive for with a degree in womens studys? I'm not asking to be funny or belittle, I truely don't know what that degree intails.