Forum Post: Where are the $100,000 Jobs Fox News Keeps Saying We Have???
Posted 13 years ago on Nov. 14, 2011, 12:30 a.m. EST by eyeofthetiger
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Lies Lies Lies everyone I know is lucky to make $10,000 a year everyone I know works to pay bills They lie on TV TV is full of B.S. I've had 4 jobs the last 6 months that did'nt even pay me I only kept one of them which does pay me But there is no guarantees it will last The Big paying jobs are those which are controlled by the rich and they want to own your life in order to get them No Thanks!!!
Do you remember the gas crisis years ago that the media overreacted and caused everyone to fill their tanks which is why it created the gas shortage?
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I'll take the hundred grand job. Tell me where to apply and I'll send my resume.
Exactly!!
wow, sounds like you need some job skills. only making 10k a year? what do you do?
MORE than enough!!!
I know a few people personally that make over 100k, they just used hard work and some ingenuity to get those jobs. Plus they've been in the work force for a little while so they've worked their way up the ranks.
I'm all for a system that pays those who better their abilities. I completely disagree with systems that try to take from people just because they have more. Let those people decide what they want to do with their money.
What do they do for a living?
Here is where our jobs have gone. If corporate greed is one of our biggest complaints lets address that problem by directing our efforts toward those companies who make huge profits and outsource American jobs. The worst offenders are Apple, Microsoft and AT&T the number of jobs outsourced is hard to quantify but some estimates show 400,000 jobs just by Apple while they only employ 27,000 in the US. These companies make more profits and at a higher margin than most of the banks we currently direct a lot of our angry toward.
Let’s Boycott these companies until they bring these jobs back to America to start with.
Microsoft ranked #2 in profit for US companies 20.6B
AT&T ranked #3 in profit for US companies 19.9B
Apple ranked #6 in profit for US companies 16.6B
IBM ranked #8 in profit for US companies 14.8B
Intel ranked #14 in profit for US companies 11.5B
Numbers obtained from Forbes list 04/2011
God some of you people are idiots. They are tech companies of course they make bank. And dont you dare say you dont own a single product by one of these companies. Everyone has an apple, microsoft, or intel product, usually multiple. Thats why they are profitable.
Also they ship jobs overseas because of the high cost of labor workers here, and because the big tech factories are over in asia anyway. Apple gets a lot of its parts from samsung, so it just makes sense to have workers over there.
Quit thinking big business is evil. All it is, is a tool, and these tech companies drive inovation so boycotting them would be silly.
Also if you are boycotting them I expect no response from you since you will no longer be using your computer made by one of these companies with intel chipsets.
Nuclear Reactor Operators earn well into $100K. All you need to do is submit to random drug testing, get periodic psychological exams, get periodic FBI background checks, work rotating shift work, receive occupational radiation exposure, and be willing to be examined in school every 5 to 6 weeks for your entire career. Oh yea, if you screw up you can be held legally responsible. To top that off there will be folks that think you don't deserve the money you earn, so you'll have to pay about 1/3rd of your income to taxes.
You forgot possibly being murdered if you become a whistleblower-- Karen Silkwood. Some hazard pay!
Not really a problem in the nuclear industry. The legal ramifications of intentional misconduct are very severe, and ignoring it would implicate me. Therefor if I ever knew of anything being done wrong I would report it... as would my coworkers. I am very confident that the site management would back me up 100%. We don't have room for illegal activities in my industry.
Well, you are some lucky whistleblowers. The rest of us whistleblowers are screwed. Protections for us are a joke.
So, I take it things have changed since Karen Silkwood?
I was in grade school when that happened. When I started in the commercial nuclear industry, back in the early 90s things were not perfect. There were a few whistleblowers, maybe some were legitimate. But after that a lot of lazy employees who were abusing the system tried to hide under whistleblower protection laws. Management from the old days has changed completely. I've been working commercial nuclear for less than 20 years, and there isn't a single person in my chain of command that was there when I started. So to paint them in a negative light over something that allegedly happened almost 40 years ago seems a bit of a stretch. What industry are you in that whistleblower protection is a joke?
Oh OK, I get it.
Kiddo, I know of very few whistleblowers in public or private agencies that get adequate protection.
I was a whistleblower on a federal office in the judicial branch and a state office related to the same issue
If you haven't noticed, there's been a war declared on whistleblowers by the Obama regime.
But gee, maybe I should agree with you that most of us are lazy fakes and to please you I should strive to prove to you I am "maybe" one of the legitimate ones. That should make me feel better
Everybody: Support and Protect Whistleblowers!
Not saying all whistleblowers are lazy fakes. Some of the whistleblowers in my industry were legitimate - I can't speak for other industries. In my industry everything is tracked on computer, so if there's a legitimate concern the history of that is fully traceable. We are regulated by the NRC, so for us, the Obama admin is just another administration that will come and go. I'm not judging you. I do support whistleblower protection laws, because the nature of humans can not be changed. There will always be good and bad management and good and bad employees. I wish you all the best.
Thank you.
For your information, before I lost everything because of whistleblowing I worked four years with only one vacation. It was intellectual work, not manual labor but it was hard work with long hours. I have never once fielded a complaint from anyone about my work ethic. Even my enemies concede I do nothing but work hard.
I was retaliated against just when the cesspool Wall Street and Wash DC was sitting on spilled into the worst job market since the Great Depression.
I cleaned toilets. I swept floors, I worked harder on no food, with nothing than you have probably ever seen.
There is nothing lazy about what whistleblowers go through. Some of them pay for it by struggling as hard as an inmate on a Chinese chain gang.
So to anyone out there who tends to shun whistleblowers, think again, and read the newspapers. Obama and DOJ has declared war on whistleblowers and for the vast majority of us there is no protection. I STILL live in fear, five years later.
Support whistleblowers, please
Nice
Not sure if trolling or just very stupid...
Provide proof that FOX said this. I have never heard it on their channel
get the wax outta your ears doe
You just proved you cannot prove it. Thank you.
I don't have to prove anything to a doe or is it dildo?
Oh you are just so mature.
BTW you will never get a high paying job because you are an intelligent moron.
are you Kim Kardashian? LOL Nice I like your body language
Occupy the abandoned business venues and we can fill them with talented American workers willing to contribute sweat equity for a share of the eventual take. If this can be done we will prosper.
wrong I put out 1000% and get back 0 no bonuses, no vacations, no benefits, no sick pay Nothing just the priviledge of having a JOB and if I voice disfavor I get Canned
I sincerely apologize, I was not complete in my answer, and I totally sympathize with your plight, they are also making it tough on contractors like myself, and if they find out you are disssatisfied with your immobility, you get canned. My suggestion is for people to get together and take advantage of the low price of commercial space and start a company of your own. It may mean the long way around, but will produce a long-term solution, and as the economy improves will be a great move for you. There are also regional pockets that are still operating rather normally, like N. Dakota, Seattle etc. Again, a long way around, but there are true dead zones in the country today, and those who are still emplying may still find themselves out of business due to lack of demand, it's like quicksand, and likely better to abandon that unstable ground. Another suggestin you might look into is creating a web-site that can make you money, selling to a world-wide audience, like resume writer, graphic artist or math tutor, something like that. Don't know if this helps but please don't give any one who blames you for your situation the time of day.
time of day Yea I've been getting a ton of finger pointing at me from the well off Like everything that's happening is my fault guess you and me are in the same boat without a paddle?
You have to work for FOX news to have one. Lies are worth more then Lives.
Fox purpose is to spread Racism That's all those assholes talk about is white this black this
The 100,000k jobs are engineers, medicine, law, business. All the things you can't do with your Philosophy degrees....Here is your Philosophy Degree, do you want fries with that?
eyeofthetiger, I couldn't agree with you more. Whenever they say 'JOBS' they fail to mention that within that cohort are what I call 'JOBLETS' to whit: All employment that is 'non gainful' ie: the earnings are inadequate in relation to the local average costs of living compelling those who need to be 'SELF SUPPORTING' to use PRIVATE and PUBLIC ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS to make up the difference that their meager earnings fail to accommodate.
A young person in the 1970's to the 1980's in the San Francisco Bay Area (and this was my experience) could snag an office job as an administrative assistant, receptionist or customer service and be able to afford a decent, non vermin infested 1 bedroom, 1 bath apartment with a carport in Concord, CA and afford to pay car insurance, gas for work, school and weekends, groceries, personal care and clothing WITHOUT needing to use foodstamps or other assistance programs to get by. There was even enough extra cash that I could save to go towards school and books at Diablo Valley College, a community college for night school.
Fast forward as an example of the problem with 'JOBLETS' and non-gainful employment: In 2008 the average rent for a 1 bedroom, 1 bath apartment in Concord, CA and surrounds was around $1200 per month-a basic 'JOBLET' at minimum wage of $8.25 only brought in $1320 per month. Most financial advisors and even lenders suggest and even require that earnings should equal 3X what your housing costs are, therefore, the IDEAL/CORRECT basic earnings for a $1200 per month squat in Concord, CA for an individual wanting to be self supporting with no reliance on PUBLIC or PRIVATE assistance programs should have been (give us a drum roll here with a SHOUT OUT for minimum liveable wage for a specific locality): EARNINGS FOR A $1200 PER MONTH SQUAT SHOULD BE $3600 PER MONTH OR $22.50 PER HOUR.
In 2010, 2 years after my company closed its doors and I was months away from exhausting personal savings AND Unemployment Insurance my modest apartment was going to see a rent increase to $1500 per month which meant that my earnings would have to be at minimum $4500 per month.
Because I'm frugal I was able to save slightly more than 2 year's worth of 'emergency survival' money over the previous 8 or so years on earnings that fluctuated between $50K and $80K doing loans and real estate that allowed me to 'pull out the stops' in looking for a) a basic 'JOBLET' to stave off going on the dole and sucking up my UI benefit which I'd paid into over a 20+ year work history since the age of 16. b)a replacement career option since my industry, real estate and mortgage brokerage is stalled-only those who are multi-millionaire agents are 'functioning' and I don't have the economic where-withal to run my own marketing at the 10,000 pieces mailed for week that would be required to make the phone ring in this depressed market. Neither of these options presented themselves to me and ALL of the business owners I approached were hurting and so, to adjust to the situation of NO IMMEDIATE JOBS (ie:max for me in the past was no more than 1 month to hookup with ANY kind of work and today's economic situation by my analysis was truly dire) So, I gave myself a wakeup call by realizing that in the San Francisco Bay Area if even somebody like me couldn't snag a basic 'JOBLET' within a few months let alone a YEAR or more, then it was time to move on with my husband and SURVIVE on his Veteran's benefit so we 'evacuated' to Reno, NV where a clean, decent 1 bedroom apartment can be had for just under $500 per month that includes utilities, water and garbage and a parking garage.
Yes, the lies go on and it's more important to do the research on geographic areas to find costs of living in relation to the low income job openings to see if there's even a remote chance of surviving and to know what average self supporting incomes are for the specific geographic area. The US 'average income' of $50K or so per year for a household of 4 omits the variation in local costs of living that could dwarf the supportiveness of it if for one individual as in areas such as San Francisco/the Bay Area a family of 4 would need closer to $120K so they could afford an average house and all other personal expenses without needing PUBLIC or PRIVATE assistance!
You aren't alone, which I know you know.
Two years. Went totally broke. Lost health insurance and didn't get elective surgery I needed if I ever wanted to have kids.
Nice life, no? In my industry, salaries: Literally the same hourly rates as in 1980, not adjusted for inflation, I mean, literally the same exact rate.
Am coming back only now. I've been to hell.
You know, as much as I loved my business it got to be less enjoyable as the years and markets declined from the late 1990's all the way through to 2008. During that time I had been involved in a partnership of friends involved in renovation, new development and even skilled nursing facilities (otherwise abbreviated as 'SNIFS') we parted after any reality of consistent transactional successes were too spotty and parted amicably with no hard feelings whatsoever for each of us pouring in considerable savings to the 'projects.' My last companies one a mortgage banker and the other involved in both real estate, mortgage banking and brokerage the repetitiousness and lack of desired results for best efforts (and I was in the top 10% grouping) plus seeing the state of our industries made me realize the wisdom of a saying that 'Winners know when to quit' Now, what all of this means is I have to consider a completely unrelated career path which of course immediately devalues my earnings potential to 1/10th to 1/4 of what I can normally do because outside of my industries I'm a 'newbie' so what that means is I would be 'entry level' in anything unrelated to my prior field.
Thoughts of a complete career change along with ideas for starting a business are simulataneously anxiety provoking and liberating since I know that with my other talents (artistic and culinary) there are potentials to pursue that may allow me to be more successful than ever before and of course, the opposite (and that's where the anxiety comes in)
Anyway, I do like to keep options open so pursuing some of these unrelated avenues for opportunity while keeping my thoughts on real estate and loans on the back burner may be the wisest way for me to go now.
Yes, we've been through 'hell' even lost one of our storage lockers in the process but at least we still have our dreams and willingness to work through and for them so good luck to us all, at least as the saying goes "this too shall pass" is probably the worst of it by having to wait for it!
Good luck to you!
I was unemployed for two years, a length of time I thought was impossible. I did odd jobs. I cleaned toilets, whatever. I was totally desperate. After that I finally got a part time job that paid 30-percent of the hourly rate I had been accustomed to for years, eons, which, though it hadn't changed since 1980, was way better than most.
Now some things are picking up. I migrated to other industries using my skills. I have combo of employment and freelance. At times getting close to my old rate of pay. I still have no health insurance. I still have no car -- yes, I lost transpo.
I'll never have kids now. I didn't get needed treatment.
So, when I see a complete coward like Geithner sitting there trembling, and a government that refuses to execute a single bank receivership, I am justified in feeling absolutely outraged. If I take to the streets, who will blame me? Who?
I won't be satisfied until most of K street and its career politician/lobbyists are out of jobs, until Congress gives up its perks and lives on SSI and the same health insurance as the rest of us, until anti trust laws and glass steagull return, until Bernanke and Geithner are out, until dollar diplomacy is dead, until corporations and trade policies are brought down to earth and out of psychotic, exploitative abandon and the almost monarchical extension of executive powers is reined in.
These people decided this particular American should not ever become pregnant and have kids.
And the best they can do is send police to shove people around.
They and their sleazy "interests" and "constituents" can go to hell
I'm sorry to hear of your loss through lack of medical treament. When you said 'elective' I had ideas of something like a vasectomy reversal or reversal of a female fallopian tube sterilization procedure! If you love children, perhaps you can do several things with them including adopt? There are so many needy children, hopefully you'll find a different way to fulfill your need to parent, ever hear of the DeBolt family? Now that's a family with a heart for parenting!
We all have reason to be outraged-please visit occupytogether.org, specifically the Abolish/Audit the Fed section which most Americans are completely ignorant of as to why it needs to be and what I would rank as #1 on the 'to do list' for change in America:
http://www.occupytogether.org/discuss/#/categories/federal-reserve
No, an injury that otherwise you would live with, unless you want kids. Not a reversal of any prior procedures. It is elective because it is only necessary if I want to have kids. It is an orthopedic injury
I do think about adoption now. thanks. But of course, you can understand why I would be particularly ticked off.
I'll check out the Fed section you are talking about.
All I see are insults no proof, because there is none. You can't ask for proof from theses guys they just know "FOX Lies" when they are the ones lying.
Fox are so stupid should be called Coyote News
Again only insults, they have no idea of what they are talking about. It's a good thing you have someone telling you what to think.
I think for myself
I don't think so, you have no idea what is actually on FOX you just spew the company line "FOX LIES" you have no idea can't provide any evidence just what you are told.
they're posers fakes
You don't watch them how do you know, someone has just told you that so many people are lying on this forum right now. Misrepresenting who and what they are, you are doing the same thing you do not speak from what you know just what you are told, in that you are the poser.
OK then they're Liars too bad they programmed your brain on how to act very sad but your just a cog in they're wheel of deception a slave
Again nothing of substance, you don't know what they say you don't know what they lie about. In fact you know nothing, you call me a slave, what are you, why don't you just put a string down your back and have your puppeteers tell you what to say oops, you already do.
are you a psycho? repeating everything I told you?weird
Not a psycho, I want you to back up your claims, that is what you do as an adult.