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Forum Post: What we are up against...

Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 19, 2011, 5:51 p.m. EST by DSams (-71)
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This is a serious concern. Many posts indicate that the writers think voting for and electing a Presidential candidate next year (there is little mention of contesting Congressional races) will constitute a "win" and the celebrations can begin... Simply stated, that is just not going to happen, even if OWS were able to successfully back a horse in the race.

When Congress is mentioned, at all, it's in the context of "cleaning house" during next year's elections -- when the simple fact is only one-third of Congressional seats will be contested in 2012. Even if OWS is able to successfully contest each and every seat during the election, and win all of them, we would still be unable to control policy. It's a simple numbers game -- it will take six years, from the date of our first contested elections, to have a shot at every seat in Congress.

Our adversary has money (scads of it), organization and control (especially of the electoral process and media). We have no money, need supporters (tens of millions) and organization. In order to successfully wrest control of Congress from the elites we need, at least and by conservative estimate, thirty percent of the eligible voters in each state to support us and vote for our candidates. This is a minimum.

As an illustration consider this: If, in any particular election in any state, approximately fifty percent (50%) of eligible voters do not vote, and if the D & R candidates split a close vote with one receiving fifty-one percent (51%) and the other forty-nine percent (49%), then that means the winning candidate received approximately twenty-five and one-half percent (25.5%) of all possible votes. Thus it will be necessary, to win in that race, to have at least twenty-six percent (26%) of the electorate vote for our candidate. And that's a close win, by a whisker, and too close to call beforehand. Moreover, it is a best case scenario.

Now multiply those percentages, let's assume a Senate race to keep things simple, by the population eligible to vote in any state of your choice... And there are fifty states, and it will take at least six years to have an opportunity to contest each and every seat in Congress.

This is simple, practical, electoral reality.

In my opinion, the worst mistake OWS could make is to contest elections before it has, at least, a better than even chance of winning. In Landon's words, "Nothing happens by chance in our political system." If we contest elections before establishing a solid foundation of wide (defined as committed and organized supporters in all fifty states) and deep (defined as at least thirty percent of eligible voters in each state) support, OWS risks everything, especially disappointment among supporters and attacks from without for incompetence, on essentially a long-shot chance that provides no practical (defined as control of policy) reward.

Now, perhaps I am wrong and OWS can achieve wide and deep support over the next twelve months. It can organize effectively and formulate a coherent message that resonates with voters. This is highly unlikely, in my opinion, because I've been here before (remember the Greens? -- grassroots democracy, consensus decision-making), but if we are able to do so, then I would fully support a slate of OWS candidates to initiate a fight for control of Congress.

The only other practical option, in my opinion, is to use a simple and easy to understand protest vote in the 2012 elections. To give the fifty percent who do not currently vote a reason to register, vote NotA and support us. To give voters casting their ballots for the least worse candidate a reason to vote NotA and support us.

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[-] 1 points by FamilyFoodGardens (240) 13 years ago

Interesting article about local government: http://www.spaceoflovemagazine.com/images/SOL_10_pages40_41.pdf

I would vote only for people who have a family food garden.

More important than voting is creating a life where we as individuals and communities concentrate on the things we really need like fresh food, pure water, a living environment and healthy relationships.

Support our petiton and plant a family food garden. http://www.petitiononline.com/SoLMag/petition.html

Occupy your Motherland!

[-] 1 points by NYCJames (113) 13 years ago

I think you are under-estimating the nature of politics. The reality is OWS doesn't need to capture 50+% to "win", it simply needs to make a large enough dent to make the point that real change is necessary.

Just like in football, the politicians need to "hear the footsteps" of the people ready to give them a jarring hit. At that point they can either get out of the way, or join our team by facilitating real change.

[-] 0 points by DSams (-71) 13 years ago

Perhaps. But it would be unwise to underestimate the raw power of money in politics. Have seen and participated in in several political movements and organizations. None had a serious or lasting effect (in terms of changing basic policy). In my personal opinion and experience, "hear[ing] the footsteps" simply isn't enough -- they need to feel our boots on their asses as we kick them out the door.

[-] 1 points by NYCJames (113) 13 years ago

DSams, a fair retort, money shouldn't be underestimated. Essentially though the point is OWS doesn't have to have 50% in '12 for it to be moving towards success. That's my main point.

[-] 1 points by DSams (-71) 13 years ago

Agreed. Nor do I expect it. My point is that we need an early "victory" to help keep us moving, generate more momentum, and attract (many) more supporters.

[-] 1 points by RobertNDavis (133) 13 years ago

I think we should start at the local level, where a mere few hundred votes can win an election. Of course, this would mean that the process might take more than 6 years, but there will be a solid infrastructure being developed that will benefit the country.

[-] 0 points by DSams (-71) 13 years ago

On both the practical and philosophical levels -- I agree completely. The social conservatism movement provides an excellent example of this approach. However, the social conservatism movement uses a long established, non-political institution (churches) to coordinate their actions. They have a coherent message and a strong set shared values to create cohesion between members. OWS does not have these advantages, yet.

However, the social conservatism movement does not seek to challenge elite political dominance -- rather they function to buttress it and cloak it in "moral righteousness." (FWIW, this reminds me of how the church supported kings and the nobility during the dark ages of feudalism.) OWS seeks to confront the elites directly.

Moreover, the elite cares little, politically speaking, for what happens at the local level (with the notable of exception of the large cities). Considering also that events are moving rapidly, it is logical to challenge them at their seat of power as quickly as possible (within the constraints of non-violent protest and the electoral system).

Given the disparate nature of OWS supporters, nature of this struggle and time frames involved, the "None of the Above" (NotA) proposal is designed to provide: 1) OWS with an early "victory" (where one is not possible at this time); 2) a common movement rally point in a diffuse, leaderless movement with no formal statement of demands or goals; 3) a simple, value neutral, easy to use protest available to everyone that allows people of widely differing ideologies and backgrounds to share some common ground; 4) an undeniable enumeration of the widespread and deep public discontent with the current state of affairs.