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Forum Post: What the Hell happened to Reason?!/On American Reason

Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 18, 2011, 1:01 a.m. EST by Lance161 (46) from San Tan Valley, AZ
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"Reason and free inquiry are the only effectual agents against error. Give a loose to them, they will support the true religion by bringing every false one to their tribunal, to the test of their investigation. They are the natural enemies of error, and of error only"

  • Thomas Jefferson (Notes on Virginia, 1785.)

Ladies and Gentlemen, I have said before that our Founders used the ONLY tool Humankind has ever had in order to attain Freedom, the use and re-use of Reason...

I've been to a protest of a sort in the past, I've observed that when Americans debate it is of the most loud variety. So lets ask ourselves. IF we are to ATTEMPT to emulate the kind of public discourse that we wish to have in this country, how can this be achieved by screaming?

The Founders understood, and therefore, never said, that Reason was the only thing that guided them on the American Experiment, that critical analysis, thinking, and inquiry where the ONLY tools available that men could use in order to create the cause of the more perfect government... while men may be subject to our emotions and imperfect, that the precise, calculated, deliberate, and honest use of Reason could be used to achieve this more perfect Government.

So when I see... at a protest, two groups that hate one another, that revile and scream at one another, I encourage, ALL AMERICANS, to do what our Founders did, embrace the use of Reason over the use of the Passions, for passions in government create tyranny, this much is clear. Bridge the gaps between us, using Science, and Reason, and Critical Thinking to resolve the bonds that bind us, for One Nation! We must always remember that this is for all of us, that we ALL have perspectives which can be precise, but we must use Facts in the face of Abstraction, Reason in the place of Passion, and will to earn and humility to be wrong in the place of Hatred, and Disgust..

This is the simple tool that created our Union, nothing more can be said, Liberty and Freedom are the products of some of the Greatest Human Minds ever, and they were created in an Age of Enlightenment, when Reason and Critical Thinking and Argument were central in the Founders Thinking...

With a humble and perhaps naive thought in my mind, I would wish that we can still resolve our differences, in the same form and fashion that our founders did... to create... a better Nation...

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[-] 1 points by michaelbravo (222) 13 years ago

i agree

[-] 1 points by RillyKewl (218) 13 years ago

YES! Say it! Say it Say it again!

[-] 1 points by Rico (3027) 13 years ago

First, we MUST TAKE OUR GOVERNMENT BACK !

Once we have it BACK, we can use the UNCORRUPTED Democratic Process to settle our OTHER differences. If we INSIST on settling them NOW, we become FACTIONS with NO POWER ... JUST the way the STATUS QUO likes.

See a proposal at http://occupywallst.org/forum/we-the-people-in-order-to-a-proposal/

Once we DO have our GOVERNMENT BACK, I hope we can re-discover "CIVIL DISCOURSE" ! Hopefully,

[-] 1 points by Lance161 (46) from San Tan Valley, AZ 13 years ago

People are the Government, we cannot make Government to be some abstract THING that we cannot be a part of... People are the Government, while they must answer for what they have done they are people too.

[-] 1 points by atki4564 (1259) from Lake Placid, FL 13 years ago

Start the war against Injustice by starting our own banks to double the income of the Bottom 90% of Workers, for many more people will come to your side when you are proactive (for “new” Business & Government solutions), instead of reactive (against “old” Business & Government solutions), which is why what we most immediately need is a comprehensive “new” strategy that implements all our various socioeconomic demands at the same time, regardless of party, and although I'm all in favor of taking down today's ineffective and inefficient Top 1% Management System of Business & Government, there's only one way to do it – by fighting bankers as bankers ourselves, and thus doubling our income from Bank Profits which are 40% of all Corporate Profits; that is, using a Focused Direct Democracy organized according to our current Occupations & Generations. Consequently, I have posted a 1-page Summary of the Strategically Weighted Policies, Organizational Operating Structures, and Tactical Investment Procedures necessary to do this at:

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Join

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Therefore, any Candidate (or Leader) therein, regardless of party, is a straw man, a puppet, a political opportunist; what's important is the STRATEGY – the sequence of steps – that the people organize themselves under in Military Internet Formation of their Individual Purchasing Power & Group Investment Power. In this, sequence is key, and if the correct mathematical sequence is followed then it results in doubling the income of the Bottom 90% of Workers from today's Bank Profits, which are 40% of all Corporate Profits.

Why? Because there are Natural Social Laws – in mathematical sequence – that are just like Natural Physical Laws, such as the Law of Gravity. You must follow those Natural Social Laws or the result will be Injustice, War, etc.

The FIRST step in Natural Social Law is to CONTROL the Banks as Bank Owner-Voters. If you do not, you will inevitably be UNJUSTLY EXPLOITED by the Top 1% Management System of Business & Government who have a Legitimate Profit Motive, just like you, to do so.

Consequently, you have no choice but to become Candidates (or Leaders) yourselves as Bank Owner-Voters according to your current Occupations & Generations.

So please JOIN the 2nd link, and spread the word to as many as possible, so we can make 100,000 support clicks at AmericansElect.org when called for, at exactly the right time, by an e-mail from that group, in support of the above the bank-focused platform. If so, then you will see and feel how your goals can be accomplished within the above strategy as a “new” Candidate (or Leader) of your current Occupation & Generation.