Forum Post: what should the next step be?
Posted 13 years ago on Nov. 3, 2011, 7:53 p.m. EST by parkeraddison
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I heard somewhere that the best thing for us to do would be to 1) declare victory 2) vacate our locations and 3) form a political party to represent our views (similar to the tea party). What do you think?
go home.........you have failed....Oakland put the final nail in the coffin
Go home and form a political movement with clear goals and run candidates for office.
It might not be as much fun as camping and defecating in public parks, doing drugs, and sexually assaulting other protesters .... but, you would be acting more like adults.
Thank you Rico. Too bad they won't. They have mental defects.
The Pentagon was hit by a missile on 9/11
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American Airlines Flight 77 crashed into the western side of the Pentagon at 09:37 EDT. All 64 people on board the aircraft, including the 5 hijackers, were killed, as were 125 people in the building. Dozens of people witnessed the crash and news sources began reporting on the incident within minutes. The impact severely damaged an area of the Pentagon and ignited a large fire. A portion of the Pentagon collapsed; firefighters spent days trying to fully extinguish the blaze.
Of course an investigation would have taken pictures of the remains of the plane. There would have been jet engines, hundreds of seats, the landing gear, pieces of luggage and bodies of the victims if the official story was true. The law suit by April Gallop who worked at the same spot of the explosion and claimed there was no sign of any plane was dismissed by Judge Denny Chin. Chin was then promoted from the SDNY district court to the 2nd Circuit. On appeal 2nd Circuit judge John M. Walker, Jr. sat on the panel. Walker is the cousin of President George Bush in a case filed against Cheney, Rumsfeld, and General Meyers.
Judge Chin's reason was that April Gallop is delusional. If the Boeing jet had truly crashed into the Pentagon, the pictures of the debris would have validated Chin's reason to dismiss the suit. Allowing the trial would have revealed April was delusional by producing the photos of the plane's parts.
Obviously there were no plane parts because there are no photos. Flight 77 was taken some place and all 64 people were murdered. These are facts they are not opinions.
Folks, got news for you. You're losing in the national court of public opinion. While many symphathize with many of your goals, as a group, the "Occupy" people's behavior, or rather, misbehavior, is turning people off. Encampments are turning into havens for the homeless, vandals, and other criminals. If you think Main Street will be outraged by the police cleaning out the encampments, guess again. Main Street doesn't like vandals, bums, and thugs roaming the parks and streets. Declare victory, go home, meet with your local Tea Party groups, organize, and get people to run in November 2012.
how about this parkeraddison? Next....then our Party will rise from it!
http://occupywallst.org/forum/its-time-for-a-million-people-march-to-capitol-hil/
How about a NATIONAL NO SHOPPING DAY on the day after Thanksgiving?
I have to think that come next November, 2012 that all of us will vote and show what we mean. At this particular time in our history, it is hard to imagine that we have come to this, but be that as it may, we do have a vote and this is something that can't be taken away from us. We must remain non-violent, but stand firm.
usually, 10% of the voters can change an election. 1% of the voters can change a Primary. It is doable if OWS is a one-big-issue get-out-the-vote Movement at the grass-roots.
Fight for #7. Congress Deadlock on New JOBS- Here is a New Game Plan. Divide the New Jobs Money In-Half to R & D. Let each Party Prove they can create the most new jobs. The Media and CBO keeps score for the next 6 months. We the PEOPLE mark a 'Check-Off' on our IRS-1040 for 2012 on which Jobs Act We want to CANCEL on April 15th, 2012.
I get the impression that anarchists control this website and have No Intention of Achieving Consensus and Voicing a Specific Action. We need a congresswo/men to be a sponsor of each of my Points. I have 20 Fighting Points: http://fuzzythinker.WebStarts.com/ows-_fighting_points.html
Senate Elections have been changed before. Take 50 Senate Seats and distribute them to All the National Parties based on Registered Voter proportions. Now, OWS, Progressives, Independents, Libertarians, Tea, Elitist, etc. can be at the table. As in New England, they can vote D or R in Local Primaries. National Democrat and Republican parties can return to being mainstream. If senate leaders are Not Successful At Compromise they will be Replaced.
Go home, get jobs, and pay into the system so you can actually EARN all these things you think you are entitled to.
Something along those lines has already started.
https://sites.google.com/site/the99percentdeclaration/ http://the99delegation.forumotion.com/
If we want to see this actually make change, yes, that's what the next steps would be.
Because I think we have been noticed. Now its time to decide what the message is that we wanted them to notice.
Call it a day.
Go home. Organize. Reach out to the Tea Party; you and they have a good deal of common ground. Work together to find candidates to run in elections. This must be a long-term project. One election will not be enough. Remember, the people you oppose have had generations to develop their system.
You can not step into a system and change it.
You have to make a system realize it needs to change on it's own.
Everything you want to change needs a congressional sponsor.
And so you find a solution...
Make potential congressional sponsors care more about the people than they do them themselves; or make them fear the people more than they love the perks of selling out.
You can not step into a system and change it.
You have to make a system realize it needs to change on it's own.
Oh yea..Declare victory. Everyone can clearly see you won. Go home to parades, praise, accolades. Then shut the fuck up for the next 50 years
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Migrate to a warmer climate, but do NOT stop.
This will just be like the Oil Spill all over again. When is the last time you heard about the explosion in Japan that is still producing much radiation?
People forget too easily. It hasn't spread enough to be called a victory. It hasn't been taken SERIOUSLY enough to be considered a win. Hitch hike if you have to. Go to Arizona. Go to Florida. Go wherever you need to go to keep healthy and warm, but DO NOT STOP.
Great idea. Declare victory. Hahahaha!
I do like the idea of sandwiching step 2 in there, leave. As if that's part of some plan and not just because you can't take the cold.