Forum Post: What it all means and how we can fight from where we are.
Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 8, 2011, 1:01 a.m. EST by GeoffH
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from Jacksonville, FL
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Over the last few days I have been following the many many streams on facebook and forums across the country. As concisely as I can muster I will try to explain exactly what this movement is for those that are confused, and explain how the People can fight.
First, this is not a political movement. It has nothing to do with being a Liberal or Conservative, Democrat or Republican, Muslim or Jew or Christian or Atheist. It has nothing to do with the Left or the Right. This is a Financial Revolution. This is a revolt of the 99% that are throwing off the yoke of financial oppression to free our Government from the corrupt control of the 1%. We are no longer willing to sit idly by and just voting in hopes that the elected officials will ignore the puppet strings and do what is right. We are taking our future into our own hands and standing up to fight for what we believe in, a Government for the People by the People.
We live in a Feudalistic Capitalist society governed not by the elected officials but by the person who donates the most money to their cause. The top 1% controls the money and thus controls the laws, fixing them to better themselves rather than better the 99%. So we, the serfs, are rising up against our oppressors. We will fight for ourselves. We will not ignore the 1% mocking us while they sip champagne and wonder "Why do they starve when they can eat cake." Like the American and French Revolutions we will rise against the Monarchy and attain our freedom.
In a modern American society it is virtually impossible to violently fight a rebellion against the 1%. The military industrial complex has insured that the general populace can not compete in an arms race. The 2nd amendment was intended to keep the Government honest with the ability of the populace to rise up if it ever overstepped it's bounds. The forefathers did not envision a future of smart bombs, drone airplanes, and tomahawk missiles. So what weapons can we fight with to effect this Financial Revolution? What peaceful, civil, and responsible solutions is there? We have, our money.
We will cripple the banks by refusing to acknowledge their credit system. We will en mass refuse to pay our mortgages, car loans, student loans, credit cards, unpaid medical bills, insurance, etc. We will couple this with pulling our money out of their Banks. Unified, we will force the banks to relinquish their control on the Government so that the Government can do what they need to do to correct the system. Meanwhile, we will still go to work, buy groceries, pay our utilities, and live normal lives.
The 1% have to be accountable for their actions. They have to relinquish control. They can not live in their ivory towers and ignore us anymore. The 99% are here to fight for our country. We are American and we believe that the American Dream is still alive. We just have to work hard to wrest it from the iron grip of our oppressors.
I'm sorry Geoff, but this just isn't the answer. I feel your pain, but the deliberate destruction of millions of peoples life savings will not win you any support and only deflect the blame from where it belongs - the criminal gangs called government and all their crony friends. This is all gonna blow up without any help from you guys.
The reality is that the vast majority of the populace has little to no wealth in the stock market. The poorest 50% of Americans only control 0.5% of stocks. If you include the next 40% and their control the amount of control rises to a whopping 9.7%. That means the top 10% of America controls 90.3% of the stock market. Of that the 1% controls 50.9% of the stock market. We would not be destroying the life savings of anyone. I would encourage those that worry about their life's savings to take it out and protect it themselves until this war is over.
The big problem here is that the 1% has everyone convinced that we NEED all the things they are selling. Once Americans realize that buying things puts them into a never ending cycle of temporary happiness and figure out what ACTUALLY makes them happy then REVOLUTION will be successful. This needs to become about how to take care of BASIC needs in an acceptable way so the individual can focus on creating happiness. The current system creates dependency rather than encourage independence.
what blows my mind the most are all these people that are marching and in full support of OWS, but also have memo's and pictures and "in memory" of for steve jobs. how unbelievably misguided can you be to love the work of someone like steve... jobs, yet what to kill the next steve jobs? steve jobs' success came about because of our capitalist system that allows for innovation and drive. no joke, one of the heads of OWS was interviewed two nights ago and when asked if steve jobs deserved to be a billionaire, she said "can one person really spend a billion dollars?" then when given a scenario: what if in the 80's steve kept 200million and every penny after that, the gov't got to keep. do you think he would've invested all his energy and time into developing the ipad and iphone and imac? and she said "i'm not sure what drives innovation, but I don't think it's physical things like money".
I will say this. Steve Jobs was certainly in the 1% Financially. He was kicked out though. They did not like him. He was a hippy pot smoking freeloader to them. He said that knowing that he was going to die was the greatest thing. It freed him from fear and let him innovate. I don't know that I mourn Steve Jobs as much as I fear what happens to the power void that is created with his death. He certainly was not the worst of the worst of the 1%.
I certainly hope the general assembly will take your reccomendations into consideration. Please be there Sunday Geoff! I totally support your idea.
I will be at Occupy Jacksonville in the morning. Unfortunately, I am not in New York as much as I would love to be there. You are more than welcome to express my recommendation to the General Assembly.
Im in the DC metro area. I hope to get to NYC in the next few days. Did you send these reccomendations to #ows?
LOL. I posted them here, in hopes that they would see them.
Copy and send it to them. They have a private message if you hit occupywallstreet.
the group in NYC is a joke. very unorganized. half the people are there for drugs or to steal from the other "protesters".
no clear demands or goals. from what can be understood, they want to end financial markets, and raise the minimum wage.
its a hopeless effort. might as well give up
You are a naysayer who has lost hope,like so many of US. However help is on the way. Do not put these people down. They are here to make a better future. The system can NO LONGER SUSTAIN itself. The conditions of the middle/working class are serfdom. We have had enough. It is breaking our backs and we must throw the 1% off of us. We cannot be SERFS any longer.
I haven't lost hope in anything buddy. I am a hard working American that believes in a small, limited government. I believe in a meritocracy where your hard work and results will speak for themselves, and allow you to be successful in life.
Check this out: http://occupywallst.org/forum/are-jobs-as-we-know-them-becoming-obsolete/
I believe that the disorganization is just what NYC needs. They sit in a place where civil disobedience is not thwarted with an iron fist and boot heel. Here in Jacksonville we have to have permits and insurance paid to the city before a protest gathers or the police can arrest everyone involved without provocation.