Forum Post: We have been misled by nearly every public figure. Please read this.
Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 18, 2011, 12:37 p.m. EST by Mcc
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We have been mislead by Reagan, Bush Sr, Clinton, Bush Jr, Obama, and nearly every other public figure. Economic growth, job creation, and actual prosperity are not necessarily a package deal. In fact, the first two are horribly misunderstood. Economic growth/loss (GDP) is little more than a measure of wealth changing hands. A transfer of currency from one party to another. The rate at which it is traded. This was up until mid ’07′ however, has never been a measure of actual prosperity. Neither has job creation. The phrase itself has been thrown around so often, and in such a generic political manner, that it has come to mean nothing. Of course, we need to have certain things done for the benefit of society as a whole. We need farmers, builders, manufacturers, transporters, teachers, cops, firefighters, soldiers, mechanics, sanitation workers, doctors, managers, and visionaries. Their work is vital. I’ll even go out on a limb and say that we need politicians, attorneys, bankers, investors, and entertainers. In order to keep them productive, we must provide reasonable incentives. We need to compensate each by a fair measure for their actual contributions to society. We need to provide a reasonable scale of income opportunity for every independent adult, every provider, and share responsibility for those who have a legitimate need for aid. In order to achieve and sustain this, we must also address the cost of living and the distribution of wealth. Here, we have failed miserably. The majority have already lost their home equity, their financial security, and their relative buying power. The middle class have actually lost much of their ability to make ends meet, re-pay loans, pay taxes, and support their own economy. The lower class have gone nearly bankrupt. In all, its a multi-trillion dollar loss taken over about 30 years. Millions are under the impression that we need to create more jobs simply to provide more opportunity. as if that would solve the problem. It won’t. Not by a longshot. Jobs don’t necessarily create wealth. In fact, they almost never do. For the mostpart, they only transfer wealth from one party to another. A gain here. A loss there. Appreciation in one community. Depreciation in another. In order to create net wealth, you must harvest a new resource or make more efficient use of one. Either way you must have a reliable and ethical system in place to distribute that newly created wealth in order to benefit society as a whole and prevent a lagging downside. The ‘free market’ just doesn’t cut it. Its a farce. Many of the jobs created are nothing but filler. The promises empty. Sure, unemployment reached an all-time low under Bush. GDP reached an all-time high. But those are both shallow and misleading indicators. In order to gauge actual prosperity, you must consider the economy in human terms. As of ’08′ the average American was working more hours than the previous generation with far less equity to show for it. Consumer debt, forclosure, and bankruptcy were also at all-time highs. As of ’08′, every major American city was riddled with depressed communities, neglected neighborhoods, failing infrastructures, lost revenue, and gang activity. All of this has coincided with massive economic growth and job creation. Meanwhile, the rich have been getting richer and richer and richer even after taxes. Our nation’s wealth has been concentrated. Again, this represents a multi-trillion dollar loss taken by the majority. Its an absolute deal breaker. Bottom line: With or without economic growth or job creation, you must have a system in place to prevent too much wealth from being concentrated at the top. Unfortunately, we don’t. Our economy has become nothing but a giant game of Monopoly. The richest one percent already own nearly 1/2 of all United States wealth. More than double their share before Reagan took office. Still, they want more. They absolutely will not stop. Now, our society as a whole is in serious jeapordy. Greed kills.
I'm not being sarcastic - but there needs to be some white space in that. I couldn't finish as it started to jumble together.
I know. I'm not good with paragraphs.
A 3rd party is only viable if the OWS makes that its priority. That means lots of work. Sitting in the park with signs is lazy. It served its purpose. The next step must be to organize the 3rd party, choose candidates in every district, and blow the crooks out of office and into prison for the bribes and kickbacks.
The entire protest needs to focus on the BRIBES.
Make it clear. The solution is only a 3rd party. Quit wasting time sitting in the park. Go home, nominate a 3rd party candidate and elect him/her.
Of course everybody is aware of bribery. Failing to focus on bribery is another blunder. Bribery needs to be the key to the protest.
Failure to create a 3rd party is because all Americans including the OWS people are in the propaganda media trance that has all Americans convinced that a 3rd party is impossible. Complete ignorance to this propaganda is missing from OWS.
It is ridiculous to suggest bribe (CAMPAIGN FINANCE) reform.
For 3 decades they keep claiming to do this and all you people can't catch on to the bribes is their reason for living. They love their bribes.
Only public funding with no ads from anybody (an obvious bribe) will prevent bribes.
The OWS ignoring bribery -- proves they are in the same deep trance as the rest of Americans. Read more http://overthecoals.blogspot.com/
I agree. This is our problem. Get money out of politics and quit allowing our politicians to sell out the American dream.
With that said, I am not sure we can say that a 3rd party will solve anything. How will they avoid the same pitfalls.
Can't you say bribe? The money pays the bribe.
All you people think alike. When someone steals from you, do you keep letting him steal because the next person might steal? That's crazy.
Boo, I lost my post by accidentally clicking cancel.
Anyhow, the point I was making is that you limit the scope of the conversation by calling it "bribes". People will use semantics and intentional misrepresentation to close down the discussion and focus it to a narrow segment. This will leave the door open for future things that can be labeled as "not bribes" even if the intention is still the same.
Get money out of politics brokers no room for discussion. It doesn't let anyone play the semantics game.
That's exactly right.
Coke limits the conversation to Coke on every ad. Every single person on earth has heard of Coke. Is Coke stupid? Do they keep wasting money on all their ads?
Its BRIBES.
The entire country is in a trance and can't say the word BRIBES.