Forum Post: Wages for Congress.
Posted 13 years ago on Nov. 5, 2011, 3:19 p.m. EST by Truthseeker99
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The people should be able to vote by referendum on Congressional and Executive Branch wages and compensation. Limit federal pensions to only one, not multiple federal pensions. Government employees (including Congress) should have to pay for their own healthcare. Also, politicians running for office should have to freeze all investments while holding office.
another suggested tying the houses health care and retirement to the safety net provided to the public
Pay for performance or Politicians:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/link-congressional-pay-to-performance/
not every human is financially motivated
That's a very good point. They are mainly motivated by power. Power comes in committee assignment memberships. We could use the same idea of incentives. When the economy falters, fire Congressmen and Senators who hold committee memberships and chairmanships. When a company does badly Sr. management is fired or demoted. We should do the same for congress. Short of voting people out removing them from committee memberships is the next best thing.
But why should they get a better system than other Americans? They should be bound by the same constraints as all other Americans. If we pay their salaries with our taxes, we should have a say over the amount of benefits they receive.
and the health benefits they receive should be the health benefits all receive
Amen!!
How about Pay for Performance for Politicians:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/link-congressional-pay-to-performance/
How To Fix Congress
connect their health care and social net with the public's
http://occupywallst.org/forum/how-to-fix-congress/
How about Pay for performance for Politicians?
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/link-congressional-pay-to-performance/
the only problem with pay for performance is nobody can agree on which are the politicians doing a good job. The right thinks Pelosi and Reid are scum and Boehner and Cantor and McConnell are great. The left feels the opposite. So who gets the pay for performance?
Use objective performance measures that the Bureau of Labor Statistics already keeps, unemployment, GDP, military casualties, etc. It doesn't matter who caused the problem, if they are in office, they are in charge, the buck stops with them, and they get or they forfeit the bonus. This will incentivize them to work to find the correct solutions together.
ok, how do we do it and how soon?
As soon as you and other people are willing to make it happen, sign the petition.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/link-congressional-pay-to-performance/
This is one idea that almost everyone can get behind no matter what side of the political spectrum they are on. The Founding Father's never meant for the position of Senator and Congressman to be a paid position. It was a short term voluntary position and then the volunteers returned home and to their regular job. The Founders knew that once money was involved that corruption could only follow. They were right.
We need pay for performance for politicians:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/link-congressional-pay-to-performance/
Most of them are millionaires. I don't think they care much about the paltry $100K per year that they get. They like the bribes and the power that comes with the job. Definitely we need term limits.
That's a very good point. They are mainly motivated by power. Power comes in committee assignment memberships. We could use the same idea of incentives. When the economy falters, fire Congressmen and Senators who hold committee memberships and chairmanships. When a company does badly Sr. management is fired or demoted. We should do the same for congress. Short of voting people out removing them from committee memberships is the next best thing.
Anyway, those who want to help themselves and their country by being involved in governing it should do it without any benefits. The are enough of good people in country of 300 mil, who would not hesitate to do such job as volunteers.
But here is much better proposition: If someone express desire to participate in governing the country he should be qualified (pass high school exams on subjects he want to deal with) then he should run for office and if elected, work as volunteer. No pay. Period. That will keep greedy applicants out and elected from taking seat for too long. After that he should be prohibited to use this job for making money. That will keep corruption down.
Then we get to the problems with the education system. Six years ago, I tutored a new community college student having problems in a Western Civilization class. She didn't even know who the participants in WWII were. She couldn't find China on a map, and thought Africa was a single country. In order for your idea to work we have to have an educated population.
From 300 mil population we should find someone to pass high school test...
one can only hope!
You can ask me high school questions. I was an A student. And then we have Google... Ha-ha! But I enjoy movement anyway!
I've been thinking about your posts. Do you really believe anyone would volunteer to serve purely for the joy of serving?
Volunteering in the government? Sure! I would do it just so I can meet there nice people to socialize. To me one of the best ways to communicate is by working. You will be surprised how many people would love to do it. Especially in the USA. And whole social environment can be changed to enjoyable. We can be proud by our country again. And it can be very productive. Imagine how many hours of work can be saved, just on bookkeeping.
You might. But unfortunately not everyone else holds the same attitudes. there are bad apples everywhere who just want to screw things up. Just explore this site and you will find a lot of jerks just trying to be mean and mess with those they don't agree with.
You are right! A lot of bad people everywhere! But despite all the problems we keep advancing. Some people still eat human flesh but our worst will not do that. That is a proof that even the worst are thinking sometimes. We can't stop moving forward because some jerk. Look at this movement. Not matter how many retards we have, OWS exist on the base of good will. A lot of people loosing money here instead of making, but that does not stop them. The old world is over. I think the better one already inspiring us. Money is not forever.
money is only a human construct. collectively we give it value. collectively we can get rid of it or at least get it out of politics.
If something takes a lot of time, only the rich can volunteer to do it. Governing would fall into that category.
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