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Forum Post: Voting Independent?

Posted 13 years ago on Nov. 4, 2011, 10:06 p.m. EST by Goatsy (28)
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why don't we create a google-supported technology party dedicated to the advancement of education and promotion of power through knowledge via the internet and other technological advances in science, medicine, etc. it could be like a "tea party" but without the tea and without the greed.

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[-] 1 points by derek (302) 13 years ago

OWS could also "occupy" the Democratic party: http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/change/science_egalitarians.html

Or at least restore democratic dialog to our society: http://www.ted.com/talks/michael_sandel_the_lost_art_of_democratic_debate.html

http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Opinion/2011/0923/Class-warfare.-War-on-teachers.-War-on-business.-War-in-America "Based on all the 'wars' partisan politicians claim their opponents are waging on innocent parts of America, it's a wonder any of us are still alive. The 'war' metaphor may win media coverage and rile voters, but it excludes the kind of debate that can actually solve problems."

Some related technology ideas: http://barcamp.org/w/page/47222818/Tools%20for%20Collective%20Sensemaking%20and%20Civic%20Engagement

[-] 1 points by ModestCapitalist (2342) 13 years ago

This is what the masses seem unable to grasp:

 If we replace our current leaders with human beings, they will sell out just as far as the current bunch. Our leaders weren't born sold out. Wall Street executives weren't born evil. They were born human. With a natural instinct to gather and store for survival. A natural instinct to care for family and community. 

When modern society was formed, we began to sell out our natural instincts. Survival turned into survival with a little more elbow room. Then survival with a little more elbow room and a nice view. Then survival with a little more elbow room, a nice view, and something pretty to hang around our neck.

Fast forward a few thousand years. With the industrial revolution came mechanized transportation, air conditioning, and television.

We had become somewhat spoiled. Somewhat motivated. Still relatively down to Earth. Still modest enough to appreciate one another, care for one another, and work towards a common goal.

Along the way, the potential for increased personal wealth became more and more intoxicating. Now, just about everyone wants to be rich. They want it so badly, they are willing to sell out basic morality to attain it. They WILL sell out basic morality if given the opportunity.

How can I be so sure? That's easy. Human nature plus years of corrupt influence plus opportunity.

Mother Nature did not plan for modern society. She did not plan on such corrupt influence. She never intended for any of us to seek or attain extreme personal wealth. We simply can not process the concept without being corrupted by it. Without compromising basic morality.

Extreme wealth is the single greatest corrupt influence of modern society. With every 'zero' on the paycheck, our basic instincts to care for family and community are compromised.

Those of you who still aren't convinced, consider this: 

If God himself gave you the power to end poverty, bring about world peace, and take a bonus of $100,000,000 for yourself, would you do it?

If God himself gave you the power to end poverty, bring about world peace, OR take a bonus of $100,000,000 for yourself, which would you choose?

Not only is the greatest concentration of wealth in world history the single greatest underlying cause of economic instability. The very concept of extreme personal wealth is the most corrupt influence in the history of mankind.

I speak the ugly truth. 

There will be no government "of the people" and "for the people". Never again.

[-] 1 points by guiltyspark (34) 13 years ago

because the economy is failing and none of that is fucking relevant

[-] 1 points by Goatsy (28) 13 years ago

making a new independent party is irrelevant? how so? could you explain yourself further before making an ass out of yourself?

[-] 1 points by guiltyspark (34) 13 years ago

no making a party centered around google and technology is stupid

[-] 1 points by Goatsy (28) 13 years ago

technology is the future. we need a science party. china is run by scientists, that's why they're kicking our asses right now. oh, and google just pulled out of china and provided tons of new jobs for americans. go google! ;)

[-] 1 points by Goatsy (28) 13 years ago

the reason i suggested google's support is because NONE OF US HAVE ANY MONEY. (derp) and since google is a good company...