Forum Post: ARE YOU Part Of The Problem OR Part of the VOTE?
Posted 12 years ago on July 3, 2012, 1:13 a.m. EST by rpc972
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from Portland, OR
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You're Either Part of the Vote, or Part of the Problem!
1% wannabe Kings who want to rule us like servants are buying our elections and our government!! That's why WE ALL need to vote!!
Voter Suppression, Union Busting, Flaccid Political Action, Citizens United Purchased Elections (WI), Another WMD-GOP Witch Hunt, Big $ and Biz Always World Record Turnouts, Americans Always World's Worst Turnout!! And You WONDER How it Got This Way?? And You Don't Know WHAT to do???
The Squeaky Wheel Gets the Grease!!
IF YOU AREN'T PART OF THE VOTE, YOU'RE PART OF THE PROBLEM!!
In Just 4 Months We Decide Whether CU-$-Backed Regressive Democracy Haters or Unorganized Unsupported Progressives Run Our Gov
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Do we let Big CU Money Buy the Election like They did in WI? Or do we get out the Vote and fight back like we did in 2006 and 2008?
With just 4 months to Election 2012 we just need to make sure we don't repeat 2010 (Never EVER Again!)! No more Blanks in Congress (state and fed) and definitely no Blank in the WH! We are still suffering from their last WH Occupancy!!
This is strictly a get every warm body to Vote time. No pouting or sniveling over petty Blank imperfections. We cannot let these crazy Blanks seize control. They've thrown down the gauntlet with their crazy and treasonous Shock Doctrine plans and they can't be allowed back in our government just because their sabotage has worked. They will cheat and steal the election any way they can. So we MUST fight back!
We must get out Massive Votes!
When Big Biz and Big $ shows up, Fucking Blanks steal elections. But when We the People show up, imperfect but sane Blanks win!! Fight back and VOTE!!
Don't let Big Biz and Big Money buy elections for their Blank toadies.
Don't let these greedy bastards make us a third world nation!
LET'S Repeat 2006 and 2008 and Vote for Blanks!!!
Vote or STFU!
I agree that there needs to be a repudiation of the Koch brothers, Sheldon Adelson, the wacky mormon cult and that whole racist fascistic menagerie. But we need even more a revitalized movement in the streets and campuses. We need 500 Montreals.
RE: "Both Parties the Same Propaganda Ploy?"
The squeaky wheel gets the grease.
Big $ shows up, We the People don't!
Of course it is a "Propaganda Ploy," you'd have to be blind, deaf, or live in a cave, to believe Cons and Dems are the same. Not even the RW Zombies and RepubliCon Propagandists who work night and day advocating this falsity are dumb enough to actually believe it. Their goal is to discourage the turnout (LIKE THEY DID IN 2010).
But there is one more (Both-Parties) option which is only found on our Left side: Prejudice. Purists and Perfectionists (who have no candidates because Perfection does not exist) who refuse to consider the vast and important differences between Cons and Dems because they made their stubborn minds up over one or two flaws. OR over a "Political System" that is in massive disrepair because of a lack of maintenance and an abundance of neglect! Making their desertion of our Political System a self-fulfilling prophecy and a Surrender!
This would all be perfectly fine (Who Needs Narrow-Minded dunderheaded bigots anyway!) except we all have to suffer the consequences of their blind Prejudice (ie. 2010 TeaBag takeover)!!!
Everybody needs to do their Homework: http://www.randirhodes.com/pages/homework.html?feed=364336&article=10248139
Happy Independence Day!!!
See the new HBO series: The News Room http://www.hbo.com/the-newsroom/index.html
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You don't get to tell people what to do. As a Congressman, that is my job. In fact, my fellow representatives and I have been been hashing out bill after bill dedicated to making the voting process more difficult of poor and young Americans.
And don't speak negatively about big business if you know what's good for you. If it were not for them, you would never be exposed to such a high caliber of representatives for this great nation.
You're obviously a filthy 1%-owned Blank cuz I know Blanks aren't organized enough to read this board.
you're a congressman? state? federal? what bills making voting difficult?
Ben Frank Green Back bills, idiot!!
I'm not really sure what the last post was getting at on who to vote for..
Voting for either the D or R in the two party duopoloy is a mistake.
The real race should be between Gary Johnson the Libertarian and Jill Stein the Green. Gary Johnson is a true conservative, wants to end the wars in the middle east and war on drugs, wants to balance the budget and protect civil liberties and control the Federal Reserve, end bank bailouts. He's also a bit extreme in his libertarianism, and likes privatized prisons and wants to abolish the IRS and Dept. of Education.
Jill Stein wants to balance the budget by taxing the rich, not cutting spending, wants to protect civil liberties, control the Federal Reserve, end bank bailouts, and end the wars. She's a bit extreme in her progressive standpoints, and wants large tax scheme that's fair on the poor and rich, ends subsidies, and uses the federal spending to allocate money to the states and cities, to grow the private and public sector through local democracy initiatives.
And most importantly, both candidates would try to end the two party reign of terror by enacting Instant Run-off Voting or Choice voting or Proportional Representation, or another more fair voting system (read more at fairvote.org)
There is no reason that Occupy Wall Street is not making a priority to end the two party duopoly through the election. Make election reform (ending corporate influence, shorter and cheaper and smarter elections, maintaining voting rights, and enacting IRV, PR etc) the number one priority! Ideally, Libertarians, Greens, and all Independent and rational voters and politicians would want to make an agreement to, at a minimum, enact electoral reform and call for a new election.
But Occupy needs to lead the front on this! Pick a fight and go for it! Leaders at National Gathering now, get talking! What's the plan for the vote? How do you get people organized, on the ground, registered to vote, and voting for REAL CHANGE?
You don't get things, do you?
Letting the Blank party/cult back in the WH is the worst mistake we could make. Let's not go down that road again until we recover from the last time they seized control. Meanwhile let's work on instant runoff elections, getting rid of CU, getting rid of America-hating Blanks and recruiting politicians with much stronger progressive abilities!!
Stop watching so much tv, take about 50 steps back, and you may be able to see what is really going on.....
Look, I'm frustrated, too.
I'm a genius robot from another world, but why confound things with details?
Why are you trying to destroy the country???
We are trying to save it. The media has one box of solutions, brought by the same people that caused the problems to begin with.
We have another box, with totally new systems.
I don't think I need to tell you which one is the best move.
RE: "Both Parties are the Same is a Propaganda Ploy."
The squeaky wheel gets the grease.
Big $ shows up, We the People don't!
Of course it is a "Propaganda Ploy," you'd have to be blind, deaf, or live in a cave, to believe Cons and Dems are the same. Not even the RW Zombies and RepubliCon Propagandists who work night and day advocating this falsity are dumb enough to actually believe it. Their goal is to discourage the turnout (LIKE THEY DID IN 2010).
But there is one more (Both-Parties) option which is only found on our Left side: Prejudice. Purists and Perfectionists (who have no candidates because Perfection does not exist) who refuse to consider the vast and important differences between Cons and Dems because they made their stubborn minds up over one or two flaws. OR over a "Political System" that is in massive disrepair because of a lack of maintenance and an abundance of neglect! Making their desertion of our Political System a self-fulfilling prophecy and a Surrender!
This would all be perfectly fine (Who Needs Narrow-Minded dunderheaded bigots anyway!) except we all have to suffer the consequences of their blind Prejudice (ie. 2010 TeaBag takeover)!!!
Everybody needs to do their Homework: http://www.randirhodes.com/pages/homework.html?feed=364336&article=10248139
Yup, socially they are different. And they both speak of different ways for economies to grow. But they are both fascist maniacs at the top, and therefore are the same.
This would all be perfectly fine (Who Needs Narrow-Minded dunderheaded bigots anyway!) except we all have to suffer the consequences of their blind Prejudice (ie. 2010 TeaBag takeover)!!!
YOU needs to do your Homework: http://www.randirhodes.com/pages/homework.html?feed=364336&article=10248139
One side winning big is always followed by hte other side showing a comeback, idiot. Its part of the game. Wake the hell up.
We are still stuck with evil. Stop doing the same shit. You mindless fool.
Welcome to the REAL world!!!
Perfection does NOT exist.
Here there is only really fucking bad with no hope (Cons) and majorly flawed mostly due to a fickle, unsupportive base, with hope (Dems). We start turning out like Big $ and get the money out of politics and government, we'll make vast improvements. BUT remember, no matter how good we make things, there will always be FLAWS for you nit-pickers to whine about! ALWAYS!!!!
See, what you consider progress, while the entire thing falls apart, some of us are claiming tha thte whole thing is still falling apart.
No one expects perfection. But if you think this is anywhere close to where this country should be, you are not giving it your all.
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Other countries do it!! What about mandatory Voting!?
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It's weird, obvious RW Trolls keep posting and posting without being banned or censored. Moderates are left alone. Posters calling for/advocating real effective action, like Voting, get canned!
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ARE YOU Part Of The Problem OR Part of the AFFIDAVIT? If you vote without holding candidates to affidavits http://occupywallst.org/forum/political-organization-rather-than-political-party/ , you're part of the problem that allows elected officials to remain unaccountable. Voting without a 33% voter backed affidavit is as effective as praying without a god.
Pssst, No God!
RE: "Both Parties the Same Propaganda Ploy?"
The squeaky wheel gets the grease.
Big $ shows up, We the People don't!
Of course it is a "Propaganda Ploy," you'd have to be blind, deaf, or live in a cave, to believe Cons and Dems are the same. Not even the RW Zombies and RepubliCon Propagandists who work night and day advocating this falsity are dumb enough to actually believe it. Their goal is to discourage the turnout (LIKE THEY DID IN 2010).
But there is one more (Both-Parties) option which is only found on our Left side: Prejudice. Purists and Perfectionists (who have no candidates because Perfection does not exist) who refuse to consider the vast and important differences between Cons and Dems because they made their stubborn minds up over one or two flaws. OR over a "Political System" that is in massive disrepair because of a lack of maintenance and an abundance of neglect! Making their desertion of our Political System a self-fulfilling prophecy and a Surrender!
This would all be perfectly fine (Who Needs Narrow-Minded dunderheaded bigots anyway!) except we all have to suffer the consequences of their blind Prejudice (ie. 2010 TeaBag takeover)!!!
Everybody needs to do their Homework: http://www.randirhodes.com/pages/homework.html?feed=364336&article=10248139
We don't know our own strength.
Partisan hacks like you only hurt, not help.
Congress has a 9% approval rating. The majority of the population dont vote because they see right through the stupidity of lesser-of-two-idiots.
Stop boxing this into one of your pro-regime corners.
The squeaky wheel gets the grease.
Big $ shows up, We the People don't!
Purists and Perfectionists (who have no candidates because Perfection does not exist) who refuse to consider the vast and important differences between Cons and Dems because they made their stubborn minds up over one or two flaws. OR over a "Political System" that is in massive disrepair because of a lack of maintenance and an abundance of neglect! Making their desertion of our Political System a self-fulfilling prophecy and a Surrender!
This would all be perfectly fine (Who Needs Narrow-Minded dunderheaded bigots anyway!) except we all have to suffer the consequences of their blind Prejudice (ie. 2010 TeaBag takeover)!!!
Everybody needs to do their Homework: http://www.randirhodes.com/pages/homework.html?feed=364336&article=10248139
Another political hack enters the forum.....
Must be election season.
That would be U douche bag (RW America-hating T)!
^cant understand that many dont fall into left vs right scam...
I'm sure what you don't understand would fill libraries.
Im pretty what anyone doesnt know would fill a library.
Please take your MSNBC/FOX scam to another political forum.
This is OWS. Fire them All. Totally new systems.
Your an idiot!
Stretching this, worthless, off-target, fool!
^will vote for more war in November
Please don't!
A vote for D or R is just that.
Idiot!
^getting paid to endorse the establishment
What do you think dummy? Cons have all the money, they don't tell you? Maybe not, you suck.
You are one dumb son of a bitch. Goldman Sachs set records in their endorsement of Obama.
Who is running Obama's superpac?
You are the dumb shti that is going to vote for more war this el ection, just like every other Dem and Rep idiot.
Way to be revolutionary. Way to go out on a limb. You are such a leader in your actions. The country has been waiting for someone like you, since congress has a 9% approval rating.
You are a true revolutionary, and hopefully everyone will vote D and R again, and this time things should finally start to turn around, like last time the D got all the power, or the R got all the power , etc...
Freakin idiot.
Each candidate is still trying to outraise the other.
Think of all the lives, homes and treasure that would have been saved if people didn't think like you in 2000, 2004 and 2010 with so many destructive and costly RepubliCon policies avoided. What selfish idiots people like you are!
I didnt vote for them, you troll. You uneducated partisan hack.
All you do is get in the way of change. Go back to your rock with the rest of the trolls.
You are one of the three amigos that got banned, arent you?