Forum Post: Virtual bodies needed at Wikipedia::Occupy_Wall_Street
Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 16, 2011, 11:35 a.m. EST by johnbessa
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from Eastport, ME
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This is an attempt to create a wiki-cadre to create a news source to be integrated into the history of OWS. Actual news is being repressed on the OWS page on the wikipedia as "scare tactics." The idea is to report the current situation at the top, and then add it to the bottom by converting present tense to past tense.
I created a heading "Current Situation" that survived for a few days and was meant to become a time entry by simply changing the "present tenses" to past tenses.
==Current situation (text that was deleted)==
The encampment was threatened with "cleaning" (The Nation) by New York City's mayor Bloomberg and Zuccotti Park owner Brookfield Properties at 7am the morning of Friday, October 13 (2011), but the "cleaning" attempt was rebuffed (LA Times) by approximately 3000 supporters. This represents a first defeat for the billionaire mayor of the city, and the first time a New York City protest encampment has resisted demolition. 14 protesters were taken into custody (Bloomberg).
==Wiki is #1==
If you want to help there (as it is the #1 information source for the world) don't fight, just insistently do the right thing which is report the truth. They may attempt to take you to their Wikipedia kangaroo court, which is a hoot.
==Background on Wikipedia and Wales==
For background, think of the maladapted Wikipedians as highly intellectual tea party libertarians. They are followers of "Jimbo" Wales who founded the Wikipedia with Chicago commodities trading pit profits, and to create the for-profit wikia system. So, "Jimbo" still fully supports capital structure, but his power there is in decline as he has hurt too many people.
Another good wiki site is the wikiversity where you can do any research and educating you want. My capital structure material is at:
http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/User:John_Bessa/Capital_Structure
I thought the process through, and my experience is that you cannot fight these assholes, but you can easily go around them. Their army has declined by 70% in the past two years, which shows a light at the end of the tunnel for facist wiki-control. The wiki-system is the way that information is conceptualized in the brain, but in the computer networks, so it really needs to be liberated.
My thought is to create a timeline on a new page, or do it on the wikiversity and the transport it over to the other page when the heat dies down. Wikiversity gets good search engine ranking.
Basically, this has to be collaborative, meaning a contributor more than one. If anyone wants to work on this with me, that is what I am looking for.
But if I have to do it alone, forget it, my two topics now are exposing Socrates as a child-rapist, and Plato as the architect of this whole mess.
I am identifying aboriginal democracy as a, or the, solution, and I read that you use the talking stick, so, it is in fact in play as a solution.
The down side of this kind of movement is that the mental illness (that can increasingly be seen on fMRI) that created capital infects everything, and, in a Dawkins abstraction, seeks rebellion to infect.
In other words, the problem that you are fighting is already in the solution to make into a new version of the same problem. As it is a mental illness (that I call anti-empathy), and there is an inbred human instinct to attempt to help these sick people with support and prayer, the illness just goes on.
The founder of Western Civilization was Plato who converted Socrates child-rapist tendencies into the synthesis of the "mind fuck," and Eastern Civilization has the same experience with Confucius who operated Asia through high-stakes testing that put Manchurians (or Han) in total control, and that is what we see as Chinese, though they appear to be a very small, and hated, percentage -- dominant Han that is, not normal everyday Han.
So that is where my focus is. Wikipedia is the greatest system on the planet, and it is now only marginally controlled by Libertarians, and they have NO control over the Wikiversity where free speech rules.
If you want to collaborate on this topic, then please reply, otherwise...
Wikipedians are libertarian, Tea Party "followers" of a Chicago commodities trader?!? I'm always looking for really extreme ideas and this one sounds perfect!
And thanks for the pointer to the drama on Wikipedia, it hadn't even occurred to me to look.
I have found similar issues with Wikipedia on different subjects, I noticed that if you reference other wikipedia articles, even if you don't have proper reference material, they allow the material to stay on longer. You can also create an open reference on a subject and it will pull from Google:scholar automatically as it appears, please review/ask wikipedia for specifics on how this is done. It is extremely useful.
If you were to mention something recent that has not had media coverage (or "reliable sources"), you could reference a couple of articles describing the situation, or pertaining to the situation. This loophole entirely depends on whether they choose to end all contributions, which usually only happens if people are blatantly lying on the page, repeatedly.
Good luck and God speed.