Forum Post: Violence Against Homeless People Is On The Rise
Posted 11 years ago on Sept. 10, 2013, 9:56 a.m. EST by GirlFriday
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Earlier this year, a survey of 250 homeless people living in South Florida conducted by the Task Force For Ending Homelessness found that more than 4 in 10 women (44 percent) and 3 in 10 men (34 percent) have been victims of violent attacks since living on the streets. “I have heard more reports of assaults in the last six months than I ever have,” the group’s CEO, Lorraine Wilby, told the Orlando Sentinel, noting that most were not random acts of violence, but robberies of what small possessions people carried with them.
No worries. It's all about Syria. http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/09/10/2592991/homeless-violence-increasing/
HUH - wonder if those homeless individuals were armed and shot their attackers - would they be OK for having stood their ground?
some one in san diego city government suggested
the city workers could volunteers
instead of putting money back into the economy
maybe they could be given badges
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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/01/us/california-man-held-in-burning-of-homeless-woman.html?_r=0
WOW - I wonder how much care that that poor woman will receive prior to being put back out on the street? Chances of survival for how long afterwards?
Not enough to get 'em off the streets.
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It's sad this happens, but we probably can't stop it unless we start putting homeless people in jail. There have been a few cases of kids beating up homeless people, but I suspect the bulk of violence is between the homeless.
Most hardcore homeless are alcoholics, drug users or mentally ill. Most can not and will not function in normal society. Most will simply reject any help beyond a free meal.
Now before someone gets bent out of shape thinking I'm bashing the homeless, I'm not. I know there are people down on their luck and trying to overcome homelessness. But they are in the minority, and most will eventually work their way out of homelessness.
So my point is I don't know how you stop the violence among the homeless. When you introduce drugs, alcohol and mental illness into any situation violence will follow.
the majority don't want any violence
having no home to go to
"but we probably can't stop it unless we start putting homeless people in jail."
Oh please narley, You should just go.
This doesn't deserve any other response.
I shall keep you in my prayers, like thus:
Dear God,
Please kill this motherfucker.
Thanks, Amen
Death is an exit and much too kind (a la that Castro POS). Life in homelessness, poverty, and all the treats that go with it ~ but just enough health care to stay alive ~ is far more appropriate. The Zombie inability to put themselves in someone else's shoes is another example of the myriad differences between Cons and human beings.
What to do about homelessness? A new New Deal. Funding: Tax stock market transactions, remove the SS cap, return to Eisenhower top tax rates, repatriate offshore tax haven accounts, put people back to work and paying taxes, reverse the redistribution of wealth to the 1% back to the 99%, and much more.
I agree with with your ideas on helping the homeless. Much better than just giving them handouts on the street corner. I actually believe we should bring back the CWA, like in the 1930's.
But I'm confused why you think I;m uncaring about the homeless?
It's your heartless RW talking-point reply.
I'm not right wing. But if I were I'd still be right about the CWA. I's an idea that seems to be gaining momentum. It's been suggested on this forum many times. It's not a right wing idea.
A new New Deal is exactly what is needed, just like deregulation and a phony war on terror was needed for the 1% and their GOP to pull-off the greatest redistribution of wealth in history, and now we have new reports of greatest accumulation of wealth at the top 1% since the '20s. And trillions hoarded and tax-havened offshore.
As opposed to your leftwing loving embrace?
what's up with tax credits in the form of health care I don't got no job
No job? No prob. You live in CA, right?
yes
Don't you have homeless people to light on fire while they sleep somewhere?
Ummmm,ummmmm feeling the luv
If I really thought you believed or meant most of things you post here I would be conflicted. Are you scary or someone to be pitied?
You are a good argument for gun control, but thankfully, there are already laws that should keep you from ever owning one
Don't shoot them either
Help me out here. That made absolutely NO SENSE. Could you elaborate a bit???? Or, are you just trying to prove you are scary crazy and maybe worthy of pity? You can't be homeless since you spend so much time here. Are your parents keeping you locked in their basement?
Like independent thought, extrapolation isn't there either.
saying a thing does not equate to knowing it
and this feigning PC thing: you cover your eyes and claim others can't see you, don't you
bore someone else, class is over
Still not making any sense, but I wasn't really expecting you to.
"why you think I;m uncaring about the homeless?"
Because you want to lie about them, ignore them, or want to throw them in jail.
Plus in Texas, they've practically eliminated practically all the services that could have helped them.
How did you get the idea I want to lie, ignore or jail the homeless? I never said or inferred anything like that. However, I did state some facts about homelessness. If your going to fix a problem it's best to be realistic.
LIAR!
"we probably can't stop it unless we start putting homeless people in jail. "
Just like you lie about the UAW.
There is nothing realistic, nor honest about lying.
It's just lying.
I didn't suggest we jail the homeless. I said we probably can't stop violence among the homeless unless we put them in jail. I'm not advocating doing it.
However, I think there are some homeless mentally ill that would be better off in a institution. But the court said no years ago, and released the mentally ill to a life of homelessness on the street.
But you still suggest it's an "only" alternative.
Yeah, that's backing it.
I'm mean c'mon man. You still pass the lie about the UAW destroying the big 3.
You are nothing, if not possessed by propaganda.
?? So what I say that deserves such a response. Do you have a plan to stop homeless violence? Do you not agree drugs, alcohol and mental illness play a big roll in homelessness?
Not since wallstreet blew the economy out of the water - now those things you list are minor.
I don't consider homelessness a minor issue.
Be Determinedly Dense - why break pattern now? But I will help U 2 Understand anyway.
No not anymore - ( now pay attention as here is where it obviously gets a bit tricky for you ) - Not since wallstreet blew the economy out of the water - now those things you list are minor ( as to being the cause of Homelessness ).
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Sigh, you fight your windmills and I'll fight mine. It isn't a "either/or" situation. You can care about homelessness and wall street.
No SHIT - by the way - you do know that you are the only one bringing up an either/or situation. Not I - U - just now.
IDIOT - Be Determinedly Dense - why break pattern now?
http://www.alternet.org/investigations/cops-are-beating-unarmed-suspect-nearly-every-day-houston
You are a windmill.
All hot air.
Trolling me again I see. But there is some good news this morning. Two Colorado democrats were ousted in a recall election and replaced by republicans. The recall election was intended to oust anyone who voted for the new gun restriction. My opinion is Colorado is becoming a red State.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/09/11/pro-gun-control-democrats-ousted-in-colorado-recall/?hpt=hp_t3
So - You "R" a corp(se)oRATist - as - YOU DO REALIZE - that the NRA BullShit was - just "THAT" - BullShit. And at this point in time - it is NOT another state going RED - NO - going Corp(se)oRATist. If You can not see that - then you R hopelessly Blind - Mentally Defective or U R a SHILL.
Don't expect me 2 respond 2 any more of "Ur" - baiting - "shill BS".
Thank you, As I said many times I'm politically liberal, a gun toting liberal who believes in the second amendment. I haven't voted republican since Rick Perry was elected. I really hate that guy.
But I;, talking to myself. Seems if your not over the top radical anarchist liberal your labeled a republican here.
You said it urself:
http://occupywallst.org/forum/violence-against-homeless-people-is-on-the-rise/#comment-1002019
Prior 2 that Ur corp(se)oRATist leanings were very obvious 4 all 2 C.
why do you believe the second amendment ?
Because the bad guys have guns and I want to be able to defend myself if needed. It's really that simple for me. I don't own a AR-15 or AK47. I'm not a member of the NRA. I keep my guns in biometric fingerprint safes.I am a veteran and still took self defense shooting classes. I just think we live in an increasingly dangerous world and I don't want to be a victim.
i feel safer if their are no guns present
cause you keep selling them
To each his own. If you don't want a gun no one is forcing you to get one. The problem is people who don't like guns want to take away other law abiding citizens guns. I've never been arrested, pay my taxes and am generally a good guy. Why can't I keep my guns?
MH, why don't you believe in it? Why should anyone else care about what weapons their neighbor chooses to own? The percentage of guns in this country that are used in crime annually is so miniscule it is lost in anyone's rounding. What you should be concerned about is the violence in this country, not one of it's tools
Aww, the pro gun death guy, that wants to throw the homeless in prison, thinks I'm a troll.
Isn't that cute?
Nope.
It's very, very ugly.
OK, how about we ship all the homeless to Detroit? They have such a good social services system.
No. You're (R)eplican't/libe(R)tarian friends have been gutting Detroit for decades.
I'd much rather you deal with problems you've already created, instead of trying to export them to other States.
I haven't researched it, but I thought Detroit was historically democrat? But I do agree that the homeless should be able to go wherever they like.
I don't why I thought violence controlled the world when clearly it was money
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it's your lies about the UAW that are BS narley. Your lies about the homeless, about Texas, about how you're not right wing, aren't helping you here.
And please, stop your BS about being anti-war. You can't be that and brag up the Texas war based economy in the same breath and come across as honest.
That's about as honest as being pro gun, but anti war.
It just doesn't fit.
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I believe the UAW is a corrupt organization. I'm fiercely anti-war (I've been in war), I'm a gun owner who believes in the 2nd amendment, I care about the homeless, I think Texas is a great place to live. I think Detroit is beyond recovery. I'm a liberal, but not a bat shit crazy anarchist who thinks we have to destroy everything. I think you are a little crazy. Anything else you want to know?
Shoes says "That's about as honest as being pro gun, but anti war."
I haven't read something so ridiculous in quite some time. Unfortunately, you probably really think that is a fair statement. Besides the fact that these days, guns have very little to do with the way Obumbler wages war., it's like saying being "pro sex" is being pro rape.
Wow, a right wing line, from a guy that swears he's NOT right wing.
Is that kind of like being "anti-union", yet you are completely anti-union?
Completely pro "right to work"?
Like being "anti-war", but loving that war economy?
You suffer from enigmatism.
Just because I think the UAW played a roll in the near collapse of the American auto industry doesn't mean I'm anti-union. It just means I think the UAW is a corrupt organization. Why is that so hard to understand?
I'm one the most anti-war people you're likely to ever meet. Sell your BS somewhere else, nobody is buying it here. NO WAR!!! Understand now?
Here's a government experiment on them that went either horribly wrong, or just how they wanted it to....
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/05/30/security-video-shows-entire-miami-zombie-attack/