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Forum Post: Unfairness will be the cause of the collapse of capitalism.

Posted 12 years ago on Dec. 22, 2011, 3:14 p.m. EST by FriendlyObserverA (610)
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With inequalities of wealth and power, capitalism is doomed.

The human heart will not support unfairness.

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[-] 2 points by LSN45 (535) 12 years ago

There are a lot of improvements that need to be made. The list reforms Americans want to see is long and varied depending on who you talk to. That said, I believe there is one reform that would provide the American people the best chances of seeing other meaningful reforms actually happen - that is REAL, loop-hope free CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM! I have seen others on this site calling this the "fulcrum" or pivotal issue. Right now the current legalized bribery, pay-to-play system of campaign donations and paid lobbyists has disenfranchised the American voter. Until this is fixed, any other reform the politicians may try to placate us with (be it a change to healthcare, clamping down predatory school loans, new financial regulations, etc.) will be about as effective as a farmer putting a new roof on his CHICKEN COOP, but still letting the FOX guard it.

We need to go back to the original political currency. Instead of the current system of who can collect the most money from corporations and special interests it should be who has the BEST IDEAS to EFFECTIVELY RUN THE COUNTRY (we don't need "Wealth Redistribution," what we need is "Political Influence Redistribution")!

For the sake of our children and future generations of Americans, we need to take back our democracy from the rich and powerful who are using their vast sums of money to "speak" as if they represent millions of Americans. This "Corporate Personhood" that has crept into our laws is allowing them to manipulating our policies in their favor at the expense of the average American (the recent "Citizens United" Supreme Court ruling is a miscarriage of justice and must be reversed. The $50 or $100 a normal American may give to a political campaign becomes meaningless when corporations or other special interests are handing our millions to buy political access to the decision making process.

For decades now the corporations and special interests have had our "representatives" bought and paid for (both on the right and the left). Concentrating our efforts on getting the money out of our politics is the best way we can create an environment in which further reforms can be realized. Until we end the current system of legalized bribery (campaign donations) and paid lobbying our politicians will continue to be the LAP DOGS of the corporations and special interests. What we need first and foremost is real, loop-hole free CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM!!!! If the corruption is not dealt with first, the chance of any other meaningful reforms becoming a reality is almost zero - the special interests will just use their money to buy votes and put forward bills that create loop-holes or otherwise twist the law in their favor. If we want our children to live in a country where there vote matters, we need to get the money out of our politics, otherwise they will increasingly become the 21st century version of the "landless peasant." Spread the word - End the LEGALIZED BRIBERY!!! CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM needs to be THE main goal of the protests!!!

[-] 2 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 12 years ago

This isnt capitalism. Its fascism. Just go and try to start a business or do something on the side. Its damn near impossible.

TAxes on absolutely everything, rules everywhere, etc.

Multiple wars, muslims as the blame game, etc.

Fascism 101.

[-] 1 points by Budcm (208) 12 years ago

What we have is not capitalism. It is protectionism. A free market WOULD work. What we have are suppliers who are protected by rules and laws designed to favor their own businesses and that allows them to charge whatever they wish without fear of anyone underselling them.. If you don't believe this, try opening up a competitive business sometime. If you get by the regulations designed to prohibit your competitive efforts, you are taxed out of business.

[-] 1 points by earnyours (124) 12 years ago

Freedom isn't doomed. It's the systems where government tries to legislate an equality of outcomes that have seen their last days. The European welfare state is imploding as we speak. Other systems of forced equality have also failed as those that are held back look to leave.

[-] 0 points by FriendlyObserverA (610) 12 years ago

Capitalism is doomed; not freedom .

[-] 1 points by earnyours (124) 12 years ago

LOL. You should read the papers and do a little catching up on Europe. Freedom isn't going away. The model of state imposed outcomes is breathing its last.

The human brain knows better than the idiotic things you post.

[-] 0 points by FriendlyObserverA (610) 12 years ago

have you been playing in the medicine cabinet .. ?

[-] 1 points by smartenough (42) 12 years ago

Unfairness was, is , will be for ever the main pillars of Capitalism

[-] 1 points by 4TheHumanSocietyProject (504) 12 years ago

Word of the day: Selfish self·ish/ˈselfiSH/ Adjective: (of a person, action, or motive) Lacking consideration for others; concerned chiefly with one's own personal profit or pleasure.

[-] 1 points by BLUTODOG (111) 12 years ago

Greed is the right word not unfairness. Nothing is ever fair it's a poor choice of words.

[-] 1 points by gsw (3420) from Woodbridge Township, NJ 12 years ago

can "food stamps" on a "international level" be established? why not a certain basic amount of medical care? a wise person once said give help to the poor. while were at it some caps on militaries.

[-] 1 points by teenager (11) 12 years ago

Capitalism, has worked well for over a hundred years. Due to capitalism, civilization grew and flourished. But because of the greed of the world's 1 % - Capitalism will die a violent death-- and will never be reimplemented on this planet. The worlds people will decide what it will be replaced with- but that's after capitalism is gone forever.

[-] 0 points by NewEnglandPatriot (916) from Dartmouth, MA 12 years ago

One world currency, one central bank, and full control - that is where we are headed. Welcome to 1984

[-] 1 points by teenager (11) 12 years ago

Agreed- that's where we were headed- but thanks to those like you- It appears that the people of this planet will - live in freedom.
We will fulfill the dream of our founding fathers- freedom for all.

[-] 0 points by NewEnglandPatriot (916) from Dartmouth, MA 12 years ago

I take no stake in this, or credit. I have seen it coming for a long time and lay no claim to the NWO - freedom is but an illusion ;freedom cannot be bought;(financial freedom), and true freedom exists only in our minds in the future - beware of Greeks bearing gifts....It will sound better than what it is , its intent will be hidden as always...When they unite the world for money it will be bad, not good; it will be sold as good and those who fail to comply will be outcast...Democracy is

[-] 0 points by FriendlyObserverA (610) 12 years ago

has it worked well .. really?

[-] 1 points by 4TheHumanSocietyProject (504) 12 years ago

He means it got us to this point. We have accomplished a lot... Man on the moon so on and so forth. Now we must take the next step and that is Resource based world economy.

[-] 1 points by teenager (11) 12 years ago

I see capitalism as a great system for primitive, newly developed technical civilizations-- But its time for its evolution ?

4TheHumanSocietyProject -- i will research resource based world economy- collect all the books on it and get back to you-

[-] 1 points by 4TheHumanSocietyProject (504) 12 years ago

Alright! check out Jacque Fresco. He has a more thought out idea then I do..

[-] 1 points by teenager (11) 12 years ago

OK i will- thanks The Venus Project

The Venus Project advocates an alternative vision for a sustainable new world civilization unlike any socio-economic system that has gone before. It calls for a straightforward redesign of a culture, in which the age-old inadequacies of war, poverty, hunger, debt, and unnecessary human suffering are viewed not only as avoidable, but totally unacceptable.

90 minute movie decribing it.

http://www.multiupload.com/Z50WKYADNL

there web page http://www.thevenusproject.com/

[-] 0 points by FriendlyObserverA (610) 12 years ago

Rome accomplished a lot to .. as did it collapse due to a foundation of unfairness.

[-] 1 points by 4TheHumanSocietyProject (504) 12 years ago

He is claiming it worked some what. However it was not the answer. "he worlds people will decide what it will be replaced with- but that's after capitalism is gone forever."

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