Forum Post: TransCanada Pipeline Foes See State Dept. Bias in E-Mails
Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 4, 2011, 11:14 a.m. EST by littleg
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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/04/science/earth/04pipeline.html
What happens to our environment(especially water sources) if there is an earthquake in the pipeline's vicinity and there is a massive leakage ? Even if they shutoff the pump, surely there will be some spill.
Also, the state department and other bureaucratic agencies are undemocratic as of now. Since the decision to approve/reject is in the hands of a few officials. How can this be allowed in a democracy ?
There should be a jury which will do a hearing from affected land owners, nearby communities, environmentalists, Scientists and finally the company executives and then Jury should decide if the pipeline is overall in the nation's interest. How can we accept some bureaucrat's decision to be what's best in national interest?
The current system is undemocratic and this is exactly cause the people in Occupy wallstreet are protesting against. It's high time, we involve common public in decision making instead of some conflict of interested bureaucrats.
The pipeline is going to be built. If not to the US then it will go to the Pacific where the oil will be put on tankers and sent to China. So to pretend that the concern over this is environmental is nonsense. Canada is going to build it. Guaranteed. It can spill just as easily in Canada as the US, so there's no real "environmental" argument to make - the environment is the environment. If you say that you just don't want it spilling in your country, that's fair, but that's not an environmental argument, that's a nimby argument.
Canada is a democratic, peaceful country where its citizens have just as many rights as we do. We either get our oil from them, or we get it from Saudi, Russia, Venezuela and Nigeria. Bastions of civil rights all.
I agree... using tankers would be so much more clean.
what ? You still want the dirty oil ? why ?
because it is cleaner and more efficient than solar. You ever asked yourself what it takes to make solar panels and batteries? InGAsP for the most part... all bad stuff.. and Lithium mining is much better. Instead of dependance on the middle east, we would be dependent on Boliva
non sense, because of your short sightedness.
Nope... it is the industry where I work. Just as dirty when you figure the manufacturing waste. To make solar panels we take the silicon sheets up to 1500C and flood with arsenic gas.... trust me this not green. And consider that the flux density of solar is too low to make it at all practical. 4'x2' panel to power one street light, won't get you too far.
Solar and Wind is still sustainable in the long run, oil is not.