Forum Post: Time To Move On
Posted 13 years ago on Nov. 15, 2011, 10:24 p.m. EST by schmoo
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Perhaps it is time for Occupy Wall Street to gain focus. Rather than return to a park and get bogged down again in the fight to camp in it, perhaps the movement should change its method and focus. Tell the authorities, "Fuck Your Park. We don't need it to be heard." I know you're stuck with the Occupy name, but maybe it's time to stop occupying one place continuously. You say that the world is watching. It was and you squandered the opportunity to say something meaningful by listing complaints. It sounded like whining. Now is the time to change, move forward and actually do something important, rather than just camp in a park in the cold.
We should be in Washington!!!!
No, you should be at home organizing a way to get a representative in Washington. Washington meaning Congress. Stop standing out there looking mad. That will accomplish nothing. You must do what the Tea Party did. It's the only way in America. This is not Egypt. This is not India.
Yes, the road to Congress stops in Philadelphia on July 4th 2012. Let's talk about that list there, everyone can spend the winter reading up on the subject.
Start facebook groups. Have living room parties. It will be in the comfort of a home and you will get way more accomplished. Hold ordinary rallies, nominate leaders, define a platform etc.
Find the one man & one woman who will represent your congressional district in Philadelphia and get them ready to attend. We. Are. The 99% growing louder and louder in every district... this is OWS: Moving Forward
https://sites.google.com/site/the99percentdeclaration/
now about that list...
"This is not a question of politics, of right or wrong. This is a question of intelligence. We must be smart. We enjoy popular support, for now. But to preserve America's good will, we must keep our demands narrow: end the corrupting influence of money in politics. That is something a majority of Americans can get behind. That is something a social movement can achieve. And then, and only then, can the other issues be successfully pursued." -theghostofthomassjefferson
Once again, there you go with that one man one woman thing. You can not dictate who will represent the people by gender. While I appreciate the effort you also seam stuck on that word citizen, try "Legal Resident" instead otherwise you are ignoring over 11% of the population and a greater % of the tax payers.
please read. up on the constitutional history of this.
http://www.migrationinformation.org/USfocus/display.cfm?ID=265
we lost our vote so that they could retain power.
yours "Legal Permanent Resident"
couldn't agree more.. protesting in that fashion is the old school way to do it.
And you joined today to say the exact same thing that other posters have repeatedly said?
Amazing.
No, they are the same few pretending to be new with different IDs.
I know. The problem is that they still think they are bloody clever.
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I think even though no one is camping out at one particular space, the message might come in louder if you guys just show up every day and then go back home(hopefully you have one). This would show dedication.
You also need to form tactical groups (smaller subsets) of ows and make them own one particular issue/task that needs to be fixed/completed. This way full steam ahead. Then all groups should meet back once a month/quarter and report the progress to the general assembly. The gains or slips should be made public on the main web site. In this way you are gaining ground and clarity without occupying parks but occupying minds and ideas that hopefully will change laws and rules and make them better or create new ones for a better America/world.
FYI: It's a global movement.
http://occupystreams.org/
So are many movements. I still don't see how that is relevant.
Stop thinking clearly and logically. It isn't good for the leaderless and directionless movement they are obsessed with. Stop it!
There's also the not small matter that these stupid park occupations have absolutely no relevance to the lives of non-urban Americans.
What are rural Americans supposed to be doing... occupying the local wheatfield? Occupy Wall Street's urban hipsters aren't even thinking of who the rest of the 99% really is, or what their lives are really like.
Although I don't think the park occupations are stupi at all, I agree. I do have a job. And i can't afford to lose work. Yet I totally support the movement. What can we occupy realistically? (makes me realize why everyone should be occupying the street in front of their homes or jobs) we really ought to be grateful for the ones who stand in our place, as we stAy home, go to work, and keep living the status quo.....if I didn't have a son in middle school to support or a mortgage to pay, I'd be right there? Am I wrong? Please, someone be honest.
"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a design to sacrifice their Liberty, their Security, and their pursuit of Happiness for the benefit of a select few, it is their Right, it is their Duty, to set aside daily concerns and demonstrate their grievances, and to demand, and to ensure, the renewal of their Government, which only then may provide sufficient Guard for their Future."
I am in a similar situation, but if something is not done about these bankers, we are essentially selling our children into the same slavery we were born into. Go to the bank for a house, go to the bank for a car, go to the bank for an education, for a retirement fund. They print the money, they are it's only source, to pay back the interest you gotta borrow more, and pay interest on the more too. It is a Company Store System based on owning people through debt. No matter how many hours you work you still owe. It is a con game. I thank OWS for stepping up to the line.
I agree and what makes me so mad and disappointed in myself is thT I don't have the balls to grAb my child and go with the movement. So many people prob feel the same way. We agree and yet our fear of having "nothing" keeps us from acting. And the funny part is (which isn't funny at all) is that we know in our hearts that that's what it will take and if we don't we'll prob end up with nothing in the future. I hope the rest of us inactive supporters don't regret our non action in the actual occupying. Time for us to start with phone calls in deluge to our local governments.