Forum Post: Thieving at OWS
Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 18, 2011, 11:26 a.m. EST by dantes44
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from Alexandria, VA
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http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/criminal_occupation_oh3CnKANUqYHrGPCaZaLRK
Is it thieving or just spreading the wealth.
Theft is running rampant at all of the local "occupations". Shocker! The entitlement crowd feels entitled! This kind of supports the theory, that the protestors are really no better than who they protest. Just a whole lot lazier.
Maybe if you opened a bank account at Bank of America or US Bank, people wouldn't be able to steal your cash!
demonization campaign in full swing
They're just taking their fair share. How is it fair that some protesters have $2,500 Macbooks and they don't? They are just taking it back. Similar to how they want to take from Americans who earn more than them. You need to be more compassionate to their struggle.
The guy in the article said that it was a $5,500 Mac. I've been a professional software for two decades and even I do not have a $5,500 Mac. If that guy had a $5,500 Mac and he was using it to protest unemployment instead of using it to generate income then it was no big loss anyway, the Mac wasn't being utilized very well. A $5,500 Mac is professional gear, for making money.
Exactly what I am saying. The $5,500 Mac was redistributed for the Greater Common Good. It should be no loss to the person who owned it.
finally! some action to right the wrong in this country
Who said every one protesting is jobless or doesn't have money ?
Fair point. But that guy in particular has a lot less money now than if he had been using that Mac to generate revenue.
GE owns NBC. GE is the largest producer of medical testing equipment in the world. They also own Universal Studeos and several banks. This is why Oprah, Ellen, and Dr Phil were paid hundreds of millions to contantly plug Countrywide (sup-prime bank), Citibank, medical testing, and every over-paid celebrity pig on the planet. Greed has turned just about every TV show into a commercial for parent companies and corporate sponsors. It makes me sick.
We have been mislead by Reagan, Bush Sr, Clinton, Bush Jr, Obama, and nearly every other public figure. Economic growth, job creation, and actual prosperity are not necessarily a package deal. In fact, the first two are horribly misunderstood. Economic growth/loss (GDP) is little more than a measure of wealth changing hands. A transfer of currency from one party to another. The rate at which it is traded. This was up until mid ’07′ however, has never been a measure of actual prosperity. Neither has job creation. The phrase itself has been thrown around so often, and in such a generic political manner, that it has come to mean nothing. Of course, we need to have certain things done for the benefit of society as a whole. We need farmers, builders, manufacturers, transporters, teachers, cops, firefighters, soldiers, mechanics, sanitation workers, doctors, managers, and visionaries. Their work is vital. I’ll even go out on a limb and say that we need politicians, attorneys, bankers, investors, and entertainers. In order to keep them productive, we must provide reasonable incentives. We need to compensate each by a fair measure for their actual contributions to society. We need to provide a reasonable scale of income opportunity for every independent adult, every provider, and share responsibility for those who have a legitimate need for aid. In order to achieve and sustain this, we must also address the cost of living and the distribution of wealth. Here, we have failed miserably. The majority have already lost their home equity, their financial security, and their relative buying power. The middle class have actually lost much of their ability to make ends meet, re-pay loans, pay taxes, and support their own economy. The lower class have gone nearly bankrupt. In all, its a multi-trillion dollar loss taken over about 30 years. Millions are under the impression that we need to create more jobs simply to provide more opportunity. as if that would solve the problem. It won’t. Not by a longshot. Jobs don’t necessarily create wealth. In fact, they almost never do. For the mostpart, they only transfer wealth from one party to another. A gain here. A loss there. Appreciation in one community. Depreciation in another. In order to create net wealth, you must harvest a new resource or make more efficient use of one. Either way you must have a reliable and ethical system in place to distribute that newly created wealth in order to benefit society as a whole and prevent a lagging downside. The ‘free market’ just doesn’t cut it. Its a farce. Many of the jobs created are nothing but filler. The promises empty. Sure, unemployment reached an all-time low under Bush. GDP reached an all-time high. But those are both shallow and misleading indicators. In order to gauge actual prosperity, you must consider the economy in human terms. As of ’08′ the average American was working more hours than the previous generation with far less equity to show for it. Consumer debt, forclosure, and bankruptcy were also at all-time highs. As of ’08′, every major American city was riddled with depressed communities, neglected neighborhoods, failing infrastructures, lost revenue, and gang activity. All of this has coincided with massive economic growth and job creation. Meanwhile, the rich have been getting richer and richer and richer even after taxes. Our nation’s wealth has been concentrated. Again, this represents a multi-trillion dollar loss taken by the majority. Its an absolute deal breaker. Bottom line: With or without economic growth or job creation, you must have a system in place to prevent too much wealth from being concentrated at the top. Unfortunately, we don’t. Our economy has become nothing but a giant game of Monopoly. The richest one percent already own nearly 1/2 of all United States wealth. More than double their share before Reagan took office. Still, they want more. They absolutely will not stop. Now, our society as a whole is in serious jeapordy. Greed kills.
Mcc,
Why don't you create your own post with this? I've seen you cut and paste this on several threads.
How do I create my own page? I've searched all over for the link. Where is it?
Mcc,
When you click on 'forum' to show all the postings there will be a blue "post" up on the right. Right next to the top comments part. Just click that and it will let you title it and add text.
ps - hope I didn't come off as pissy "don't post on my thread!!" type.