Forum Post: They are shutting her down
Posted 13 years ago on Nov. 14, 2011, 1:53 a.m. EST by RexDiamond
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I don't know why they're bothering. The Occupy Sites will be up and running again within the week. The Movement's not stopping just because the Police ran through the camp.
Oh, the police can crank it up to level two if needed. Eventually what you will have is vigilantes helping the police. It's best that you shut her down. Get your things, get phone numbers and start meeting in private.
There are several hundreds of millions more of us (concerned citizens in the USA and nations all over the world) than there are of the 1% and their hired "bully boys" with their batons, tear gas, pepper spray, rubber bullets (which can easily kill and maim) and even more lethal weapons which they will, without any doubt, use in the future. As the saying goes, We Shall Overcome!
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several hundreds of millions? really?
lol
find yourself in a crowd and you get delusional. and is why you buy into the idea of being the 99% right?
trust me, you are not. sorry.
And do you think you even have a million nationwide protesting? There are many many many more people not affiliated or in agreement with your stance in the nation.You try to rise up like that with the small numbers you have, you will be facing more than the police. It's best you stand down or lose all hope of ever achieving any of your goals - whatever they are.
The whole World is watching alight, and you are making us look ridiculous.
When was the last time you actually stood up for something you believed in? How does lamenting an initiative undertaken by others support the quality and well being in your life? It's so easy to find something to disagree with or disbelieve in. Imagine the power you have to to actually support something you find value in. Join or leave, the choice is yours. You can write history, now, or read about it, later.
I stand up for things I believe in all the time. I just do it in a smarter more effective way. You are just a puppet for Obama.
This is how Marxism works. You are following the plan lock and step.
The results of your intellect and wisdom are duly noted.
It's not going to be a million protesting. It is going to be millions taking action.
You are going to fondly reminisce about the days when there were simple occupations and protests.
There are millions out here watching to see what action you take. And they are prepared to respond accordingly.
such is the human condition.
And what action are you going to take?
Really. Let's just turn over the US to China now. Why should we care about accomplishing anything in the US?
Occupy Wall Street is not about our financial constraints with China. If it was, I would be a member. 99 percent of these OWS people have no idea what that even is. It's about class warfare. Americans against Americans. And they went up and asked Canada if they would please back them up. It won't work.
When they want to get behind the real problems, they'll have many more behind them.
We do have to start getting ourselves together if we want to have respect globally and secure the future of our country. We can't continue on in a country where the middle class is the greatest contributor and least beneficiary. There's been a long standing class war and it's nearly been won. Now it's time to see that worker rights have slipped away, freedoms have slipped away, and general decency has slipped away. Let's roll up our sleeves and get things fixed.
It starts at the ballot. We have to pay closer attention to who we are voting for.
I believe you are misinformed. There is no one that can be voted for who will help. Mitt Romney and Obama are both shills for the Corporate Empire. Obama's ramped up the wars in the middle east, and Romney will do the same. Obama put the cronies who cause the financial disaster back into power, and Romney will do the same.
Your vote is an illusion. A predetermined selection that has been bought and paid for by your masters.
another heartbroken Obama follower who woke up to his lies.
sorry kid, they all aren't like Obama. and sorry you were fooled by him. but try not to hold it against our way of life. that's just what Obama wants. the blame on something else
So who are the secret people that all the candidates work for?
It's not a secret. http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cid=N00009638
So why are you not at these companies instead of holding a carnival in Manhattan?
that would be the evil 1% boogyman.
no no not any of their rich music idols or movie stars. umnn its umnn the really old ugly rich guy no one knows.
and those "corporations" which is really just a bunch of people. but people are good. corporations bad.
or, something like that.
OK, see that doesn't make any sense. One percent of who?
That is part of it yes. And we have to weed out any corruption we find in our system and work to refine it.
If they have 20,000 protesting nationwide at any one given moment I'd be shocked. Even the vast majority of people who "agree" with their frustrations/issues do not "agree" with, or wish to participate in, their methods.
They are planning on shutting down Wall Street on Thursday by holding a carnival. How misguided is that?
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/14/us-usa-protests-newyork-idUSTRE7AD20G20111114
Oh this is going to be fabulous! They plan to spread out in the subway system to educate people about disenfranchisement? There's nothing New Yorkers LOVE more than talking to strangers on the subway!
At least they've warned the NYPD that they'll need to bring in semi trucks to hold all of the people arrested for holding up traffic on a public bridge on a weekday.
The more they inconvenience the 99% they keep saying they represent, the more annoyed that 99% becomes. I can't wait to see the poll numbers on Friday.
Newsflash: You are not educating people. You are destroying American liberalism. The longer this continues, the redder the country becomes.
Agree 100%.
It is very unsettling knowing that many of these people are going to get themselves injured. This is not the way.
It is the only way human beings understand. No matter how enlightened we become, or how highly evolved we pretend to be, this is how it always ends.
My friend, if water canons are all that is ever involved, I will be happy.
These crowds are going to get blasted with the water cannons. They can bring as many as they want and still be no match for the police.
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First you have to identify who you are fighting. You are a blindfolded man swinging at shadows.
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yeah, i'm pretty sure i'm gonna have to get that shotgun if it starts getting nuts and we have vigilantes running around. hopefully it won't get that bad.
God help the protesters if they venture out into rural and small town America.
May Something help rural and small town Americans if they do not joiin the movement. The US government has targeted them for removal from their farms and estates as environmental hazards.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
And WHO does the US government think will grow their food for them after they remove them?
Interesting. I have heard this conspiracy before. But, I don't see it happening. Technologies are changing on farms and new more productive operations are being performed. These people have the best ability to adjust to change. They are a thousand times tougher than most OWS members could ever dream of.
It gets worse, the Occupy movement looks like it's turning on itself in places.
http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2011/11/13/occupy-seattle-interrupts-pro-occupy-wall-street-forum-drives-away-supporters
Ha ha.
well, don't believe anything in the main stream press, especially in Harper Land...the people have always had to fight for their freedom..
How wold you get information? Only from people that agree with you? I saw this report earlier today, it's almost comical. http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2011/11/13/occupy-seattle-interrupts-pro-occupy-wall-street-forum-drives-away-supporters
it is not about occupying parks, banks...it is about occupying your life, a life worth living...we can do that!!!
"Tide turns against Occupy movement in U.S. Camps cleared in Salt Lake, Denver."
This headline is obvious wishful thinking on they papers behalf. (and RexDiamond for posting it here) The cops have been fighting this since it started why is this any different. More people will show up. You can not kill and idea. Truth will out.
St. Louis was shut down for a brief period (mainly while everyone was in custody..). However, progress has been made and we are on our way to being fully functional again! Take THAT Mayor Slay
LOL yeah. take that Mayor. You can't stop us from taking over a park and creating a dangerous situation.
Dangerous? Your pessimistic view is more dangerous then any occupation. I am a protestor and PROUD of it.
Just about every camp in all major cities has had a death. Untold injuries and assaults, Rampant drug use. Rapes. We can go on and on.
Do not be a victim of misinformation, my friend.
You think that's bad. I saw a OWS protester unzip it's skin and it had green reptilian skin underneath. They've come from underground to begin the harvest of human flesh!!! Lol. Don't succumb to scare tactics. Haven't we seen enough of those from our government/major corporations? Oh no look...a terrorist!!! Ha...snatched your freedoms while you were looking cough "Patriot Act" cough
Real Americans and Honest Americans don't fear the Patriot Act. why do you?
Actually, plenty of real and honest Americans do "fear" the "Patriot" Act. Maybe you don't like your constitutional rights and I guess you have the right to that opinion...for today anyway. The government is using Orwellian language to wrap attacks on Americans like razor blades in Halloween candy. I'd advise against eating it up.
So all the deaths were faked by the news?
Okay, I admit it, I set myself up for that one...Sadly, yes, there have been some unsavory activities going on at some of the occupations. I did read into the deaths..it is sad to hear. I had hoped this movement would stay relatively upbeat and death-free. But then again, that went out the window when I saw police beating up young, innocent, unarmed protestors...Sometimes this society just leaves me speechless ya know?
I was actually in NY participating in the movement in the first few weeks. I really enjoyed my time there, everyone was extremely friendly and welcoming. I suppose it hurts my heart a little when I hear about things like the recent events. No matter what I still fully support this movement and everything it stands for. Call me a fool if you wish, but I will never back down.
It's the structure of the movement. Either is isn't well thought out, or anarchists are finally realizing how misguided their dream is.
I agree. Anarchy is a worthless cause, more like misguided freedom advocates... Our world is way too populated. A government free society works for groups of..hm 5 or less?
agreed. I believe in small government, but no government is a death warrant.
It's hard to say. There is a lot of motivation to create fake accounts right now. That's not to say these things can't happen in OWS. It is likely they will just as they do in the rest of society. What we really need to focus on are the most objective news agencies we can find (which isn't easy either).
Have you been reading the dallasgoldbug stuff?
I found it interesting. I am not agreeing or disagreeing. You might find it interesting as well
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RabCAUl73zc
It is interesting. The video promotes the idea that there are staged events on both sides. So what is the outcome that Soros is supposedly trying to achieve by creating these spectacles?
chaos. It's easier to operate in a society of chaos.
So what is his greater agenda for the US then? Right now it seems we are clinging to order in chaos, so if that is his plan I guess it wouldn't take much effort to erase the fine line.
Let's hope things all turn productive and we can see true change without additional chaos (and while the current organized chaos is resolved).
By turning our society into chaos? Absolutely not.
Do you have any idea how many horrendous crimes are committed every day in America that you never hear about? I worked for a police department for five years and you would be horrified!
are all these crimes committed under the guise of a political movements desperately in need of credibility?
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Evil and brainwashed people are shutting them down. Stand strong!
The police are just doing their job. The paranoia is going to get many people hurt.
No, the awakening of a large majority of the 99 percent has not happened yet and the "evil" materialistic greedy people will fight and hold on to their "stuff" with a strong fight, but in the end they will go down and Love will prevail. So yes the police are doing their job but for the above.
You need serious therapy. People that think like you are dangerous.
These police make modest salaries and have families of their own. Pull your head out of your ass.
No, people like me are enlightened, non-materialistic, loving and peaceful!
Therapy? No, I am 64 years old and have watched for years what is going down. By the way, I have worked at police departments,etc. and they are not all angels believe me.
Educate yourself please ... theeconomiccolaspeblog.com would be a good start.
I said nothing bad about the police as human beings except that they have not woken up to what the hell is going on ... like I assume you have not since you do not understand what I am saying.
Portland, St. Louis, Denver, and Salt Lake have been shut down.
That is just the beginning. They will all be shut down due to the lawlessness, unsanitary conditions, drug activity, rapes and sexual assaults that are prevalent in the OWS encampments.
The OWS movement attracts nothing other than the lowest common denominators and dregs of society.
All of the encampments will be shut down.
Maybe they are following the people that are supposed to be setting an example. Just because something is law doesn't mean it is what is right. We turned that corner a long time ago.
The OWS camps have become nothing but a bunch of thugs and criminals engaging in drug activity and other activities such as rape and sexual assault. Among other crimes.
Regardless of what you may have thought OWS once represented, it represents nothing anymore other than lawlessness, drugs, and assaults of innocent people.
Lawlessness, drugs, and assaults of innocent people? I didn't know the Senate and Congress joined OWS. That should make for an interesting turn of events.
RicoSuave is nothing more than a troll. Pay no attention to him.
Always on the lookout for sensationalism ;)
As long as you don't let the naysayers get you discouraged. I did like your comment about the Senate and Congress however. ;-)
They are just doing their jobs. I guess we should feel compassion for them. Positive, happy, successful people don't end up as trolls.
Yeah, I feel sorry for them also. I do feed them every now and then, too. Can't help myself.
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