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Forum Post: There is a line in the book: '1984'...we must make it come true...

Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 29, 2011, 1:53 a.m. EST by MarkDuwe (127)
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The line is: "Is the resistance real?".

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[-] 1 points by Tommiethenoncommie (211) 13 years ago

If the so-called "top 1%" control you and they control the people you need to change them too, you cannot stop them. Remember what happened to Satan? "I can do better than God!" And where is he now?

[-] 1 points by reddy2 (256) 13 years ago

Bread and circuses for the sheeple

[-] 1 points by lisa (425) 13 years ago

The theme of being against corporate greed in all it's forms for all the ways it is impacting everyone's lives is what OWS is about. The problem is that systematically the rights people had were taken away from them beginning with the Patriot Act. Now, if you succeed in tearing down a government, you do not have the rights you used to have to actually have the input to help implement a new one, which is why I believe the first order of business should be repealing the Patriot Act and all those other things which took away people's rights. There was nothing wrong or dysfunctional with the old technology the govt. used to spy on people with for decades. They used it on mafia people, drug lords and spies. The dfiference now is they turned it on the American people to prevent any uprisings. Now private militias will be dispatched to deal with any meaningful revolts. If you take down the government, be it city, state or federal, you will have martial law implemented. As bad as things might be now, martial law is much worse. You want to be ruled by Blackwater troops? Rep. Pete King who is on the Homeland Security Committee wrote and got legislation passed to deploy those troops on NY streets in the event of an emergency. It will not take long for them to get to Zucotti Park if Wall Street is truly stopped from doing business, etc. (they have a base in Uniondale, if they drove in the HOV lane they could be there within one hour, with some choppers even less time). This idea, we will occupy wall street and make this happen seems do-able because the city has not really taken it seriously. They think you cannot hold out and last thru the winter, once they think it is a problem, the potential for the private militias becomes a possibility if the NYPD become overburdened with a large crowd that they cannot contain.

[-] 1 points by JackBrisco (27) 13 years ago

Folks, here's what's turning your movement into a sideshow, and into eventual irrelevancy. First, you have no coherent platform. There are just a bunch of demands, some reasonable, others ludicrous. I saw "The Movement" in the 60s and they ended up having one basic platform - get out of Vietnam. People nationwide related to that and in the end we left Vietnam. If you want grassroots support you must ensure Main Street understands what you want. Second, your movement is being played by the Obama regime. They're trying to use you when they've sucked up just as hard to Wall Street as the Bush Administration. The Obama regime will do ANYTHING to be re-elected. Should they get in again, hey, they've cashed their check and won't give a flying fuck about you, me, or anything/anyone else but their own agenda.

You and the Tea Party people may have more in common than you think. They are better organized and have turned that organization into some political power, helping people get elected at all levels during the 2010 election. If you truly want change in the USA it can only be done through the ballot box. Right now you have no chance. But if you and the Tea Party can find that common ground, can work together, can develop some sort of coherent, rational platform, your chances to realize lasting change grow dramatically. Someone reading this is in a leadership position within your movement. What's it going to be? Do some heavy lifting, find some allies, really do something great and right, or just keep jerking off?

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 13 years ago

tea parties already here

why wouldn't they be?

[-] 1 points by JackBrisco (27) 13 years ago

If they are it hasn't been publicized.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 13 years ago

different protest

some of the same people

[-] 1 points by JackBrisco (27) 13 years ago

So are people talking? Planning? Thinking?

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 13 years ago

yes