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Forum Post: The problem with socialism

Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 12, 2011, 11:43 p.m. EST by VFL (0) from Dickson, TN
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The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.

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[-] 1 points by Rmarks1701 (103) 13 years ago

the NHS in England may not be free for long, the reasoning is simple: It costs far too much money to pay for non tax paying illegal immigrants and so called health tourists to use it for free. These are people who contribute nothing in the way of taxes but due to the human rights laws cannot be turned away from free health care. As to the education system. It is not as free as you think. You have free education until you turn 18, after that you need to get student loans to continue into higher education. Student loans that have to be paid back (though you can take until you die to pay them back), and no the government will not pay them back for you.

As to how do I know, I am an Englishman, and many of my friends who went to university over in England will be paying back student loans until they are 50 or older.

[-] 1 points by esoteric81 (14) 13 years ago

OccupyWallStreet isn't about socialism--it's about Common Sense.

[-] 1 points by Dost (315) 13 years ago

Yeah, yeah, Thatcher said this, right. Socialism is misunderstood. Having Thatcher comment on it is like Hitler commenting on Anti-semitism. England has universal health care and free education. Do your homework.

[-] 1 points by SparkyJP (1646) from Westminster, MD 13 years ago

The problem with capitalism is that for prosperity to endure it needs to be shared. Mass production, demands mass consumption, but people can’t afford to consume if the wealth an economy generates is concentrated at the top. Over the last 30yrs, a giant suction pump has drawn into a few hands an increasing portion of produced wealth in the US. In consequence, as in a poker game, where the chips are concentrated in fewer and fewer hands, the other people can stay in the game only by borrowing. When their credit runs out, the game stops. Another bust cycle - or worse ........................... Depression!! Besides; what we have now is both. Capitalism on the way up ...... "corporate" socialism on the way down.

[-] 1 points by atki4564 (1259) from Lake Placid, FL 13 years ago

Exactly, which is why what we most immediately need is a comprehensive strategy, and related candidate, that implements all our demands at the same time, and although I'm all in favor of taking down today's ineffective and inefficient Top 10% Management System of Business & Government, there's only one way to do it – by fighting bankers as bankers ourselves. Consequently, I have posted a 1-page Summary of the Strategic Legal Policies, Organizational Operating Structures, and Tactical Investment Procedures necessary to do this at:

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[-] 0 points by TeaParty (27) 13 years ago

I want and deserve your money. I work hard every day and deserve more. Give me more! I want the big house and big tv for FREE! Give it to me! Or, I'll protest.

[-] 1 points by atki4564 (1259) from Lake Placid, FL 13 years ago

I love you, but obviously no one has taught you to READ and THINK critically before you respond LOGICALLY, not EMOTIONALLY. Peace is the absence of emotion, and so is good judgment. And please don't respond with yet another insult just because I criticized your critical thinking abilities, for this only makes you look bad.

[-] 0 points by TeaParty (27) 13 years ago

I'm tired. I cleaned your hotel room today. I cleaned your streets today. I want your money now. I need $ now. Your money.

[-] 1 points by atki4564 (1259) from Lake Placid, FL 13 years ago

THINK about this: your workload can be reduced by 75% as a bank owner-voter. For example, the 99%, as Home Town Banks of 65,000 Members, can divide themselves into 16,384 Vehicle Investment Groups of 4 Members, with each group of 4 Members purchasing a hybrid-diesel-hummer-limo Cab which they then put into their Town Cab Fleet of 16,384 Cabs. Why? Because this would reduce their Individual Transportation Costs by 75% (Cost of 1 Cab / 4 Members = 75% less cost per member), and yet they would have a Luxury Limo Cab available to them, out of 16,000 cabs in their Town, five minutes after calling for one, but not necessarily the specific luxury cab they own 25% of. This 75% reduction in Individual Transportation Costs -- for everyone -- reduces transportation prices by 75%, and thus money, by 75% (and let's not forget the lessening of Mother Nature's burden from having 75% fewer cars with no traffic jams). Furthermore, the list of simple productivity improvement like this one -- which the 99% want but the 1% don't want -- are endless. But first, the 99% must control the banks before the can control their Town (and National) design in this manner which is less costly (in terms of the worker hours to maintain it by 75% too) and yet have 75% greater luxury (such as a limo cab) at the same time. Consequently, to decentralize banking is to lower cost is to lower price is to lower the existence of money by 75% across the board of all similar such services, and eventually, prices to zero.

[-] 1 points by TeaParty (27) 13 years ago

I want a hit. Whatever I takes. Quit bringing clothes and food. You n Know what we need. We will quit this protesting if we don't get the shit we were promised. And it better be good shit.