Forum Post: The Poverty Myth (Deficit Theory). Who Knew? Experts
Posted 12 years ago on Dec. 16, 2011, 8:14 a.m. EST by JadedCitizen
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Empirical Studies on the Culture of Poverty Concept vs. Cultural Opinion of Grownup
Researchers around the world tested the culture of poverty concept empirically (see Billings, 1974; Carmon, 1985; Jones & Luo, 1999). Others analyzed the overall body of evidence regarding the culture of poverty paradigm (see Abell & Lyon, 1979; Ortiz & Briggs, 2003; Rodman, 1977).
These studies raise a variety of questions and come to a variety of conclusions about poverty. But on this they all agree:
There is no such thing as a culture of poverty.
Differences in values and behaviors among poor people are just as great as those between poor and wealthy people.
In actuality, the culture of poverty concept is constructed from a collection of smaller stereotypes which, however false, seem to have crept into mainstream thinking as unquestioned fact. Let's look at some examples.
MYTH: Poor people are unmotivated and have weak work ethics.
The Reality: Poor people do not have weaker work ethics or lower levels of motivation than wealthier people (Iversen & Farber, 1996; Wilson, 1997). Although poor people are often stereotyped as lazy, 83 percent of children from low-income families have at least one employed parent; close to 60 percent have at least one parent who works full-time and year-round (National Center for Children in Poverty, 2004). In fact, the severe shortage of living-wage jobs means that many poor adults must work two, three, or four jobs. According to the Economic Policy Institute (2002), poor working adults spend more hours working each week than their wealthier counterparts.
MYTH: Poor parents are uninvolved in their children's learning, largely because they do not value education.
The Reality: Low-income parents hold the same attitudes about education that wealthy parents do (Compton-Lilly, 2003; Lareau & Horvat, 1999; Leichter, 1978). Low-income parents are less likely to attend school functions or volunteer in their children's classrooms (National Center for Education Statistics, 2005)—not because they care less about education, but because they have less access to school involvement than their wealthier peers. They are more likely to work multiple jobs, to work evenings, to have jobs without paid leave, and to be unable to afford child care and public transportation. It might be said more accurately that schools that fail to take these considerations into account do not value the involvement of poor families as much as they value the involvement of other families.
MYTH: Poor people are linguistically deficient.
The Reality: All people, regardless of the languages and language varieties they speak, use a full continuum of language registers (Bomer, Dworin, May, & Semingson, 2008). What's more, linguists have known for decades that all language varieties are highly structured with complex grammatical rules (Gee, 2004; Hess, 1974; Miller, Cho, & Bracey, 2005). What often are assumed to be deficient varieties of English—Appalachian varieties, perhaps, or what some refer to as Black English Vernacular—are no less sophisticated than so-called "standard English."
MYTH: Poor people tend to abuse drugs and alcohol.
The Reality: Poor people are no more likely than their wealthier counterparts to abuse alcohol or drugs. Although drug sales are more visible in poor neighborhoods, drug use is equally distributed across poor, middle class, and wealthy communities (Saxe, Kadushin, Tighe, Rindskopf, & Beveridge, 2001). Chen, Sheth, Krejci, and Wallace (2003) found that alcohol consumption is significantly higher among upper middle class white high school students than among poor black high school students. Their finding supports a history of research showing that alcohol abuse is far more prevalent among wealthy people than among poor people (Diala, Muntaner, & Walrath, 2004; Galea, Ahern, Tracy, & Vlahov, 2007). In other words, considering alcohol and illicit drugs together, wealthy people are more likely than poor people to be substance abusers.
The Culture of Classism
The most destructive tool of the culture of classism is deficit theory. In education, we often talk about the deficit perspective—defining students by their weaknesses rather than their strengths. Deficit theory takes this attitude a step further, suggesting that poor people are poor because of their own moral and intellectual deficiencies (Collins, 1988). Deficit theorists use two strategies for propagating this world view: (1) drawing on well-established stereotypes, and (2) ignoring systemic conditions, such as inequitable access to high-quality schooling, that support the cycle of poverty.
The implications of deficit theory reach far beyond individual bias. If we convince ourselves that poverty results not from gross inequities (in which we might be complicit) but from poor people's own deficiencies, we are much less likely to support authentic antipoverty policy and programs. Further, if we believe, however wrongly, that poor people don't value education, then we dodge any responsibility to redress the gross education inequities with which they contend. This application of deficit theory establishes the idea of what Gans (1995) calls the undeserving poor—a segment of our society that simply does not deserve a fair shake.
If the goal of deficit theory is to justify a system that privileges economically advantaged students at the expense of working-class and poor students, then it appears to be working marvelously. In our determination to "fix" the mythical culture of poor students, we ignore the ways in which our society cheats them out of opportunities that their wealthier peers take for granted. We ignore the fact that poor people suffer disproportionately the effects of nearly every major social ill.
They lack access to health care, living-wage jobs, safe and affordable housing, clean air and water, and so on (Books, 2004)—conditions that limit their abilities to achieve to their full potential.
Great post!
Ignore those who have a propensity to resort to racial stereotypes. I think that the people who inject such slurs into conversations are somewhat lacking in their own ability to think critically.
Agreed.
"having a job" shows one to be "motivated and with strong work ethics"? exactly how scientific was this "study"? lol
First, if you actually read the post, you would see this was the conclusion of many studies conducted over many years and around the world. <DUH! GUESS YOU DIDN'T READ IT VERY CAREFULLY!>
"Researchers around the world tested the culture of poverty concept empirically (see Billings, 1974; Carmon, 1985; Jones & Luo, 1999). Others analyzed the overall body of evidence regarding the culture of poverty paradigm (see Abell & Lyon, 1979; Ortiz & Briggs, 2003; Rodman, 1977)."
"These studies raise a variety of questions and come to a variety of conclusions about poverty. But on this they all agree:"
"There is no such thing as a culture of poverty."
again, if you read the study, the conclusion was that participation in a job established motivation and work ethic (the authors words not mine).
see what (Iversen & Farber, 1996; Wilson, 1997) had to say.
"duh" - lol
This is what is said. "Poor people do not have weaker work ethics or lower levels of motivation than wealthier people (Iversen & Farber, 1996; Wilson, 1997)"
based upon a conclusion through employment levels or number of hours worked. go back and read what I initially said and then show me how the study arrived at the conclusion they did.
The burden is not on me to prove how the researchers arrived at their conclusions. My burden lies in putting forth expert opinion to repudiate wildly inaccurate social opinions posted in this forum. You can conclude what you will from the studies. If you think you can do better than these researchers, and come up with your own expert conclusions, no one is stopping you.
I look for facts. Do you believe particpation in a job establishes an equal measure of motivation and work ethic among workers?
You look for facts and then ask me for my opinion? That is a little counterproductive, don't you think.
not at all - it is to see what level of fact you require in your decision making. maybe it's already established.
My decision making is not on trial, no matter how badly you want to make me a target to discredit the studies. The information stands on its own merits. If you want to discredit the conclusions of the studies, you need to find another route.
Actually, when a person repeats information, they implicate themselves as being supporters of the information. Your inability to answer whether you believe the facts have established the conclusion speaks volumes.
Nice try. The empirical information obviously supports my beliefs, otherwise, I would not have posted it with the subheading, "Empirical Studies on the Culture of Poverty Concept vs. Cultural Opinion of Grownup", to counter this individual's blatant social opinions not founded upon ANY facts. You can continue to waste time with these silly and useless tactics, but in the end, the studies still stand (fact-based empirical evidence of numerous studies and all) upon their own merits. And anyone who reads it can come to their own conclusion.
You have to look into the data collected by the study and the conclusion. Again, you avoid the question.
You can keep fishing but I'm still not biting the bait. I'm sure the experts did a fine job of collecting the data and measuring it carefully. If you doubt that, take it up with them. As I told Grownup earlier, I never said I was right, I said I'll stick with evidence over biased opinion. If you want to give me other data to consider, I will be happy to do so. For the last time, I am not saying that I am right, I am saying the evidence supports that social opinions centered around deficit theory or false.
I'm also not saying the conclusion may not be correct.......but to present their approach as fact based empircal evidence (your words) wrt the motivation/work ethic is, well.......just incorrect.
Great post. This info is so important. The more economic stress that is put on the lower and even middle classes, the higher the neccessity to increase government programs to compensate.
Of course, Elizabeth Warren says it best in a 1 hour lecture. Kind of a "how did we get here". Worth blocking out an hour.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htX2usfqMEs
Thanks for the link, I'll try to watch if I get time. Elizabeth Warren knows her stuff.
All this brilliant sophisticated intellectual garbage and you miss the most important thing. "The poor" is not a group - The poor is made up of many individuals in their predicament for a variety of reasons. Of which - the most common factor - is being a a single paent family. Look it up
Here is an article that takes a very unbiased point of view on the causes of poverty, and I agree with it. It makes perfect sense. Both sides have valid arguments for the causes of poverty. Why do we not work together?
"...we can and should forge an antipoverty strategy that "recognizes both the society's obligation through government and business, and the individual's obligation through labor and family."
http://prospect.org/article/false-choices-poverty
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Thank you for this amazing and accurate post.
De Nada.
Wow, sadly, it takes professional thinkers to come to a conclusion this lower rung person has been saying for years. Those that hang on the words of suites and ties strangle themselves severely.
I love that last sentence. It brings such a pleasingly funny mental image to my mind.
I thank you. That is the power of words.
Myth: Responsibility and choices are irrelevant, only liberalism can save Black people.
What in the hell do Black people have to do with the poverty issue? Why are you injecting race into the issue of poverty?
Yeah, those are utterly disconnected too, but you brought it up, cupcake. LOL
No, I brought up poor people. I made no racial distinctions, sweetheart. KMA.
actually, there is a strong correlation between race and poverty. In the US, the ratio of black to white poverty is about 3:1. This doesn't necessariy mean the cause is race but that the correlation exists.
would that be KMWA or KMBA? :)
Your statement is addressed objectively and unbiased. The original statement was not proposed in such manner.
None of your business.
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say what?
It took me a minute to get that. Lol.
Sorry I was unclear. :)
I was just flabbergasted by his weird random statement
Grownup needs to grow up.