Forum Post: "The People's Act 2012" and "Amendment XXVIII"
Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 13, 2011, 8:12 a.m. EST by mocracy
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This proposal does not dictate how the 'The People's Act' and 'Amendment XXVIII' should read but rather suggests how the demands and the concerns of protesters can be written and passed into law.
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another bid for a constitutional convention, Didn't you learn from the 16th 17th and 18th amendments just to name a few. Holding a constitutional convention when you have a mass of dumed down people who could not even grasp the mechanics of money and finance, something they use every day, for over 100 years is a sure fire way to LOOSE the USA forever. "It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning".- Henry Ford not to mention the fact that WE the People have had this same enemy since our inception as a country and never came to realize it and still don't. "Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes the laws".- Mayer Amschel Rothschild(1744-1812)
"Money is the alienated ability of humankind" - Karl Marx -Money is a commodity. It is the abilities and capacities of humankind in commodity form. As a commodity the abilities and capacities of humankind are mystified to promote, protect and preserve the power of the few to control and to regulate 'state' power calibrated to the needs of 1% of our society to maintain control over the means of production and wealth. One of the mystified forms of money as a commodity is this 'theoretical fiction' known as "Finance". Revolution is a process of persisting change that must transcend the 'state'. Notice that the word transcend is used here and not the word abolish. We must demystify money and free ourselves from its current 'understandings' before we can free ourselves from it grip! It is not the aim of "The People's Act", "Amendment XXVIII" or the constitutional convention to transform the 'state' or even to reform the "state" the goal is to transcend it towards the achievement of a free association of human beings realising their abilities and capacities - viz., labor and needs - in a balance that truely allows society and the individuals in society to benefit "each according to his need" as each contributes "according to abilities". It is not enough to throw out a few words about the past when you have no vision for the future and no 'real' understanding of the past that you speak of in your comment. "The present is the future unfolding . . ." K. Marx. It is through legislative 'Acts' and 'Amendments' that I as a descendant 'slaves' can write to you here today as a 'relatively' free person. Where do you fit into the bends and fold of a movement that has to start somewhere if it is to go anywhere! Buck Up! or Shut Up!
yea but, Holding a constitutional convention when you have a mass of dumed down people who could not even grasp the mechanics of money and finance, something they use every day, for over 100 years is a sure fire way to LOOSE the USA forever. But I guess that's what communist/socialists have been working on for years, getting rid of America, and transcending the ability to get more for less. Money is not a commodity, FIAT money is a commodity. The abilities and capacities of human kind come in many forms art, pondering ,experimenting, loving and most important living. But we have seen what happens to thinkers in a socialist setting. What happened to Soviet socialism? Oh yea, it died due to a severe lack of competition AND the common mentality of people under all communist experiments, which is, I don't need to do any more than is asked of me by the collective. Science has inability to motivate people to go out and innovate or create . That's not what Science does it studys and it experiments, it does not motivate Take the Chinese for instance, I lived amongst the Chinese for about 5 years, I like the Chinese people they are good, fun loving and very smart, but they as a group have lost the ability to imagine, hypothesize, innovate, and create just to mention a few ill effects of living in a socialized society that exists to serve the collective or in actuality the leaders of the collective. I'm talking about the Chinese, you know the Chinese , with 5000 years of "civilized" history, well it only took 3 generations of socialism to destroy 5000 of peaceful civilized society full of artists and creators as most of ancient Chinese artifacts will plainly show. I urge you to take a trip around China and take a close look at Socialism "in the flesh so to speak" pay close attention to what the Chinese refer to themselves as "the lost generation" of whom are some of the most uncivilized people on the planet. 5000 years of civilization lost to 3 generations of Communist/socialist marxisim
You are very comfortable speaking of the dumb masses. What can you do to educate and inform them besides anchor your critique of the present in disappointments of the past forms and attempts to realise the 'power that slumbers in the lap of social labour' K. Marx. The present is 'history unfolded' K. Marx. What the unfolding of history has taught us about the 'Soviet system' and China is that social relations of capital are organic and that you can not impose an ideology on the modes and means of production. Marx was so disgusted with the forced interpretation and applications of his 'historical materialist method' that his dying words are said to have been 'I am not a Marxist'. The question today, right now is what are you? Marx's 'historical materialist method' is such that each set of social relations has a unique history, a particular present and a distinctive potential to realise the social power of labour. You can not tie the past or present 'social relations' of Russia and China around the neck of the social relations of the United States of America. It is excellent that you know your history, it is sad that for fear of being doomed to repeat it you have chosen nihilism instead of activism.
I guess you have not noticed the one thing that is common to most all of the posts I make. So I will say it you you here. Nothing at all can be accomplished until the problem at hand is rectified. That problem being that a private for profit entity has the power to create the money supply and not only regulate that money supply, but cause it to fluctuate at will. NO OTHER plan of action need be attempted until such a time when the power to create and regulate the value of money ts taken away from the private entities that have it presently. Furthermore to show you that I am not a complete neanderthal, I have come to realize something. I Figure that every American need ONLY work probably 3 months out of each year in order to provide for the basic needs of society. Knowing this I still understand that no new system of civilization will ever be implemented until the power to create money and regulate its value is returned to We the People of the united States of America. Because at this point in time, even if the American People wanted to forsake money for another form of civilization the choice to dispose of Money is not theirs as they have so foolishly allowed their power to create money be given away by bought and paid for politicians. One can not destroy what belongs to another. I hope you catch what I am saying, and just in case you don't I'll make it plain and simple.. We the people must cease bickering about ones personal ideals, wants,values, and whatever else and unite in the one common goal needed before anyone of us has any hope of advancing what they think is a proper course of action for the future of America and the world. That common goal being to return the power of creating and regulating the value of money to the people where it belongs, then if the people want to forsake money they will have the power to dispose of money as the power to create and therefore destroy money would be theirs and theirs alone. GOD HELP US ALL!