Forum Post: The ONLY way this can work...
Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 9, 2011, 11 p.m. EST by MyHeartSpits
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Is if we come together on what we DON'T want government to do. All of the things we want government to be, or not to be, can wait until government stops screwing us over.
Get money out of government. End US "peacekeeping" around the world. That's ALL.
http://occupywallst.org/forum/end-the-federal-reserve-boardtomorrow/
I agree, we need to stop arguing about stupid shit and focus on ending the Federal Reserve Board. Nothing will change until this Ponzi scheme is illuminated and dismantled!
Viva la Resistance!
This movement must not end. It cannot end. Getting beaten is worth it, if we accomplish something. Failure means death for millions. We cannot fail.
Here are our demands:
1-Require the immediate return of all bailout capital, and use it to pay off all civilian debts, even if at deep discount.
2-Expand antitrust laws to include any single company that makes more than 2.5% of the US Government's one-year revenue for three consecutive years. (~$112bil/yr)
3-Designate lobbying and filibustering as forms of treason.
4-Limit congressional appointments to 2 terms.
5-End both wars, redeploy all US troops as humanitarian aid for the next 3 years.
6-Establish a flat tax with no exceptions, all people and corporations taxed evenly.
7-Increase public education salaries by 50%, double the budget for teachers nationally.
8-Invest Gov't funds ($bil) into Venture Capital firms in the nation.
9-End all non-essential subsidies; Outlaw all GM foods & terminator seeds.
10-Restrict profits on all medical services & products. Subsidize all of it for everyone, immediately.
1-Paying off civilian debts will free up spending money to cover living expenses. The bailout money would end up in the same place, but no one would be paying interest on it. This also frees loan capital for new credit.
2-Breaking up conglomerates will produce more mid-management and upper-management jobs, as well as increase competition, increase supply-chain diversity, increase product selection – All of which helps stimulate economic growth. Any company that generates that much revenue exists as a threat to our sovereignty. We cannot permit our nation to persist as a puppet government.
3-Lobbying is thinly veiled bribery, filibustering is a means of stymieing the legislative process. Both should be obvious to anyone as violations of due process, attempts to subvert the legal system against the tenets of our great nation.
4-Professional politicians ruined Rome. They have ruined America. We need a constant stream of new blood in congress to prevent
5-Ending both wars will relieve our national debt fears, and sending them to perform humanitarian aid will show the world that Americans do have souls.
6-A flat tax for all people and corporations would make our national tax revenue explode, even with a tax rate below what the non-rich already pay.
7-Enhancing public education salaries and budgets would allow for more teachers to be hired, meaning more college grads are employed everywhere, and they get paid enough to live on.
8-Venture Capital funds invest in startups and small businesses, which account for the vast majority of companies in the US and produce many, many jobs. The returns on these investments will provide additional revenue, perhaps even enough to save Social Security.
9-Subsidies drain the gov't, GM food causes a whole host of direct environmental problems and indirect health dangers, and terminator seeds harm farmers.
10-Restrict profits on medical services and products, healthcare costs will plummet, making government-subsidized healthcare a feasible option.
Many more people will come to your side when you are proactive (for “new” Business & Government solutions), instead of reactive (against “old” Business & Government solutions), which is why what we most immediately need is a comprehensive “new” strategy that implements all our various socioeconomic demands at the same time, regardless of party, and although I'm all in favor of taking down today's ineffective and inefficient Top 10% Management System of Business & Government, there's only one way to do it – by fighting bankers as bankers ourselves; that is, using a Focused Direct Democracy organized according to our current Occupations & Generations. Consequently, I have posted a 1-page Summary of the Strategically Weighted Policies, Organizational Operating Structures, and Tactical Investment Procedures necessary to do this at:
http://getsatisfaction.com/americanselect/topics/on_strategic_legal_policy_organizational_operational_structures_tactical_investment_procedures
Join
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/StrategicInternationalSystems/
because we need 100,000 “support clicks” at AmericansElect.org to support a Presidential Candidate -- such as any given political opportunist you'd like to draft -- in support of the above bank-focused platform.
Most importantly, remember, as cited in the first link above, that as Bank Owner-Voters in your 1 of 48 "new" Business Investment Groups (or "new" Congressional Committees) you become the "new" Congress replacing the "old" Congress according to your current Occupation & Generation, called a Focused Direct Democracy.
Therefore, any Candidate (or Leader) therein, regardless of party, is a straw man, a puppet; it's the STRATEGY – the sequence of steps – that the people organize themselves under, in Military Internet Formation of their Individual Purchasing & Group Investment Power, that's important. In this, sequence is key.
Why? Because there are Natural Social Laws – in mathematical sequence – that are just like Natural Physical Laws, such as the Law of Gravity. You must follow those Natural Social Laws or the result will be Injustice, War, etc.
The FIRST step in Natural Social Law is to CONTROL the Banks as Bank Owner-Voters. If you do not, you will inevitably be UNJUSTLY EXPLOITED by the Top 10% Management Group of Business & Government who have a Legitimate Profit Motive, just like you, to do so.
Consequently, you have no choice but to become Candidates (or Leaders) yourselves as Bank Owner-Voters according to your current Occupation & Generation.
So please JOIN the 2nd link so we can make our support clicks at AmericansElect.org when called for, at exactly the right time, by an e-mail from that group, in support of the above the bank-focused platform in the 1st link. If so, then you will see and feel how your goals can be accomplished within the above strategy as a “new” Candidate (or Leader) of your Occupation & Generation.
How easily we can Reform Wall Street--Simple & Direct
It's Time for a Million People March on Washington, D.C. to Reform Wall Street--Time to take back our Country from their Influence over OUR lawmakers! Here's how easily we can do it, a focused good start: Take away their powers "once again."
"We are here Congress because we want to REINSTATE the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933http://www.investopedia.com/articles/03/071603.asp#axzz1aPEc3wX which saved our country from the Great Depression by preventing banks and insurance companies from merging and becoming large brokerage firms; instead of Banks and Insurance companies--can't we learn a history lesson here Congress? Btw, why did most of you vote for its repeal in 1999? http://www.counterpunch.org/2008/09/19/shattering-the-glass-steagall-act/
And also we want you to CHANGE the Commodities Future Modernization Act of 2000http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodity_Futures_Modernization_Act_of_2000 BACK to where it was before 2000, which since has deregulated energy markets and has allowed such scams as The Enron Loophole; whereas in the early 2000's Enron Corp. was charging 400 bucks plus for a kilowatt hour...They all when to jail for this. But, the Enron loophole is still not CLOSED, for example, allowing speculators to resell barrels of oil over and over again before it reaches the gas station owner. It's basically, legal gambling at our expense. What were those lawmakers thinking then? What are you thinking now? Either do the right thing, or you're part of 1%."
Reasons:
Why are oil prices high? The Enron Loophole
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbdtTGYQBMU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNp0y0SjOkY&feature=related
Rolling Stones Reporter: Truth about Goldman Sachs--how they have cornered the markets--basically, The Enron Loophole and the Repeal of Glass-Steagall Act in 1999. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waL5UxScgUw
Peacekeeping or policing, I'm not sure. It's funny that we are in all of these countries fighting wars and then spending billions of dollars fixing what we destroy. Yet, our own country is going to shit and people are losing their jobs, schools are closing and everything (tuition, housing, health insurance, etc.,) is getting more expensive. I don't know how to fix shit anymore. It's hard to know where to begin. I feel like it is so hard to make it in today's society.
I'm happy that people are protesting Wall Street's practices. But we need more specifics with numbers , facts, details about the abuses that occurred.
If this movement can present mountains of hard evidence of abuses, maybe this will turn into something to embarass the financial instituations that caused this crisis, and turn this movement into a long lived, sharp spear Instead of an amorphous cloud of fury that will dissipate, when people get tired and go home.
One person, or a few cannot do it all. so everyone has to dig into the details,facts of the financial system and present their findings.
When the housing market crashed, the entire economy shuddered and froze.
There are things that I think people should know :
Here are some specifics that I am aware of. There was a Senate investigation of the financial crises nearly 2 years ago. The Senate Permanant Subcomittee on Investigation headed by Sen. Carl Levin. That information is still on his website. This committee turned over thousands of documents to the Justice Dept. for possible indictments. If the committe didn't believe there was just cause, then there would be no reason to hand it over to the DOJ. Many believe, at the very least, there is case for fraud. The DOJ must DO THEIR JOB. Or at least come out and tell people that there is no evidence of fraud. Which, I find to be a stretch of the imagination.
That is my #1 - Thourough investigation of Wall Street by the DOJ
2 - Separation of money and State, and end the monied influence in the politcal process . To get our democracy back!
3 Re-enact Glass-Stegall including some sort of restraint/regulation on derivitives.
Not necessarily in that order.
I don't agree with U.S. Peacekeeping either. I believe in the direct destruction of Islam, period.
and why do you believe that?
Because Muslims believe in murder for salvation. Those who claim otherwise stand in silence, and watch as others murder.
no they dont. muslim religion is pretty close to christianity. they just pray more. american media mis represents muslims to make us believe the crap your spewing. dont. you are allowing the 1% to win power over what you think. do some research into the religion. educate yourself. dont spread hate.
Then why are terrorists allowed to live freely in the Middle East? Why are they not rooted out?
the idea of "terrorists" was created by the 1% as scare tactics. and they pump those scare tactics through all news stations. The people they refer to as terrorists are most likely groups of men who are bad for business so they make everyone hate them so that way they can eliminate them and everyone is ok with it. Bin Laden had nothing to do with 9-11. Al Queda is a made up organization with no military force, no air force, no navy, no weapons of mass destruction and for some reason we have been at "War" with this non-existent force for over 10yrs, the longest "war" in human history. Its all a big game to make more money for the 1%. the Bin Ladens and the Bush family have been in the oil business for decades, they are friends still to this day. He is not dead trust me. just another lie to boost the morale of the country. Obama probably thought that one up. supposedly they 'killed' him and then disposed of the evidence knowing that americans would want to see his dead body, they threw him into the ocean. its all shady man. all bull shit.
You're a fucking idiot. I think you need to repack your bowl
Why not let the UN get off their butts for a change and do something about it.
The U.N. never has, and never will, accomplish anything. It's just a bigger form of government. Government does not accomplish things.
I missed your islam comment. No point arguing with a bigot.
It has nothing to do with how I view Muslims. It has to do with how they want me to view them. They don't want freedom of religion, and they don't want respect from others. They want to live by the sword. So be it. I'm not going to argue with them.
Cool story bro. I have friends who are muslims who don't believe what you say.
I respect the few Muslims who opposed terrorism. Unfortunately, I believe they are hypocrits within their own faith. Until the Muslim majority stands up together against murder for the sake of salvation, then I have no respect for it. This is a free world.
And you, not being a muslim, have the correct faith and intellectual standing to make such judgements?
Muslims across the world condemn the violence that is going on.
I'm not going to get into a religious battle, or pretend to expect anyone to believe in what I believe in. Unforunately, the majority of Muslims across the world are not standing up against violence. They may condemn it in conversation, but they are not standing up against it.
Where are the anti-terrorist protests, with hundreds or thousands of Muslims standing up together against terrorists? There aren't any. Why? Because they are affraid of their own faith.
They aren't afraid of their own faith. If they are afraid of anything, its the crazies. Seriously, those guys behead people.
and lets not forget, there has been violence across all religions. obviously, not a justification for violence, but no one has the moral high ground to cast stones from.