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Forum Post: The homeless and the occupiers

Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 31, 2011, 9:26 p.m. EST by stephenadler (118)
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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/01/us/dissenting-or-seeking-shelter-homeless-stake-a-claim-at-protests.html?hp

The article is a good read, about how the homeless are huddling in with the Occupiers to gain access to food, shelter, safety etc. The article goes on to talk about how some occupy movements feel uncomfortable having the homeless basically move in with them. All I can say is that the Occupy movement better embrace the homeless. Set up a committee and discuss what should be done or how one can help the homeless which show up at your occupy space. This is your chance to show the world how one goes about dealing with the social problem that is the homeless. Show the world how you can put together a solution, temporary as it may be, to help the homeless back on their feet. "Feed a man, you've fed him for a day, teach a man to fish, you've fed a man for a life time"

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[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 12 years ago

the homeless often knew each other

find a friendly one to help to learn and work with the others

[-] 1 points by mserfas (652) from Ashland, PA 13 years ago

This is no accident, but the logical outcome of Occupy Wall Street's search for social justice. OWS expects a right to assemble, a right to use a park for this noble purpose, a right to exist without being mercilessly and wantonly snuffed out. That is a right the homeless do not have in this country. OWS wants a society where people have a positive right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, and while that may include such elaborate planks as guaranteed health care, it starts with the simplest right for a person to be able to pitch a tent somewhere without having all his things confiscated and burned up for being homeless. OWS wants its people to be free from bogus arrests and imprisonment - the homeless want just the same.

OWS may stand for the 99%, but the 99% stand on top of the bottom 1%. The harsh conditions imposed on the homeless serve as the threat and punishment to all the others. And it results, above all, because Americans can't come together, can't form some national Geneva Convention to place limits on the cruelties communities can inflict on the poor to drive them from place to place. Now the question is, will OWS become part of that system, driving out the homeless itself? Or will it welcome them with open arms, until the rest of the populace sees them as a bunch of bums worthy of nothing but contempt and abuse?

I'm not there; I can't tell you the third path. But what if OWS finds a way to do what the state can't do, to prove the intrinsic worth of the homeless? What if they can produce some kind of value - a catchy YouTube video, a song, something? Inspiration awaits...

[-] 1 points by sudoname (1001) from Berkeley, CA 13 years ago

I was unsure at first, but now I really think feeding the homeless is a good idea. Of course I'm not out camping, but I've talked to a few homeless people at length and they can give quite a lot of perspective, and have practical street smarts.

[-] 1 points by turtlebeanz (40) 13 years ago

there was an earlier, fairly lengthy thread more or less on this topic. not sure how to search in here or i would provide you a link. peace.

[-] 1 points by EasterRising (35) 13 years ago

Dude. You are homeless if you are sleeping in the park.

What they think they are better then the homeless.

They don't smell better.

[-] 1 points by RicoSuave (218) 13 years ago

"If I need clothes, someone donates clothes,” he said. “If I need to take a shower, someone helps me find a place to do that. If I need medical help, there are medics here. Everyone gets fed well, 24/7. I need medical marijuana but I have no money. Here, people give it to me.”

Wow ... They are even giving away pot to homeless people at Occupy Oakland.

[-] 0 points by agnosticnixie (17) from Laval, QC 13 years ago

I know Oklahoma city had an organizer who was known as part of the city's homeless, who sadly just died of old age in his tent.

For all the tensions, I get the impression that it would be very hard to make the distinction, not all homeless people look dirty and scruffy, not all protesters are young and clean, yknow

[-] -1 points by smartcapitalist (143) 12 years ago

I never give money to homeless people. I can't reward failure in good conscience.

[-] 1 points by BradB (2693) from Washington, DC 12 years ago

ok... now you me got pissed ... u're a fucking ass hole .... FUCK ALL the BANKERS... they are ALL heartless greedy fucks ... u are a fucking piece of shit.... fuck trying to save them.... DISTROY the FED

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