Forum Post: The bankers are not innocent
Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 28, 2011, 1:05 p.m. EST by ronimacarroni
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Even if the federal reserve and the government added gasoline to the fire you must never forget that the people responsible for this are not innocent and are probably plotting their next move as we speak.
Blame the student for cheating, not the teacher for not making sure s/he didn't.
I think it is more of a case where the wealthy student pays the teacher to change the rules. These new rules benefit wealthy student groups and not others.
I'm sorry, but I disagree and see it the other way.
The government set the table and poured the wine for the corporations and bankers to feast on. Sure, these same entities were responsible for buying out our government -- but it's our politicians who allowed the process to be auctioned out.
It's a little chicken and egg, truly.
So, going to your little analogy - I'd state it more like this:
When the teacher provides a copy of the exam to the student prior to the test for a modest fee and then turns around during the exam to not see if the student is cheating ... who is to blame? The teacher for providing a cheating-rife environment or the student for taking advantage of it?
I think it is more of a case where the wealthy student pays the teacher to change the rules. These new rules benefit wealthy student groups and not others.
Who is to blame in this scenario? The student for trying to rig the test or the teacher for accepting and agreeing to it?
I would put more blame in the teacher. Why? Because it is the teacher's responsibility to create a fair test environment and a fair transfer of knowledge. It is the teachers charge to maintain this environment. Their job is to administer a fair test.
The student is certainly at fault -- but to a different degree -- what they did was morally wrong. But they aren't being paid to take a fair test. To be honest, a student's job is to make the best grade possible. Bending the rules is morally reprehensible, but to be expected from time to time.
Blame the student is the one that got the teacher the job, blame the teacher he took the job, but the student enabled him to take the job……………..blah blah blah
It's called collusion, they are both guilt as hell and both need to be expelled
Agreed. But you aren't going to "expel" corporate America.
But we can expel the politicians and set up a situation where money is all but out of politics.
The politicians that enable should definitely go
As far as I am concerned the multi-nationals that have no loyalty can leave also.
I think/hope the day is coming where the "love or leave it chant" applies to them. America is a huge market. Our boycotts can/will be very effective. We the people and our talent built them and we don’t like the way they show their appreciation by sending our jobs to the lowest bidder on the planet
make breathing illegal, and all of a sudden you have a world of 7 billion criminals
What if the teacher slipped the student the answers?
What if the student blackmailed the teacher that his parents would stop paying her/his salary if s/he didn't give him an A after he got caught?
Furthermore, what if the class was graded on a bell curve?
Special Interests don't pay elected leaders salaries. The proper analogy is "What if the student blackmailed the teacher that his parents would stop giving the teacher bribes"
Except that when the bailout happened... I mean when little Timmy cheated the whole class was in jeopardy because his parents paid for most of the expenses.
Who wrote TARP and signed it into law? The Congress and the President.
So you're blaming the teacher for trying to save his/her class.
No__I’m blaming the teacher for creating a completely one sided playing field where little Timmy passes the test even when he gets all of his answers wrong while other students are left to their own devices. The only result of that policy is that the same actions that led to Timmy getting the wrong answers will most certainly be repeated because Timmy did not experience any repercussions as a result of his failed practices.
The vast majority of banks did not do anything illegal or against the rules. That is why it is indeed the people that make the rules who are the problem. Don't hate the player, hate the game.
why not change the game
Exactly, that has to be done in Washington though, they make the rules.