Forum Post: Tear Gas and Pepper Spray are Chemical Weapons
Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 27, 2011, 6:27 a.m. EST by MagPie22
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Not to be used on soldiers but no problem using it on unarmed civilians.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepper_spray
http://torontoemerg.wordpress.com/2010/06/22/tear-gas-and-pepper-spray-are-chemical-weapons/
Nato and US claims Chemical Weapons are to be destroyed in ex.: Iraq and Libya. Fine. But use with the same chemical weapons are used by NATO countries by police force.
Police Use of Force
Police enforce social order through the legitimized use of force. Use of force describes the "amount of effort required by police to compel compliance by an unwilling subject" [1]. The levels, or continuum, of force police use include basic verbal and physical restraint, less-lethal force and lethal force.
The amount of force police use should be the minimum amount needed to eliminate the threat presented, thereby minimizing the risk and severity of any injury that may occur.
Police should also: •Ensure that those injured receive medical aid. •Ensure that the family of any injured person is notified.
http://www.nij.gov/topics/law-enforcement/officer-safety/use-of-force/welcome.htm
Chemical. Officers may use chemical sprays or projectiles embedded with chemicals to restrain an individual (e.g., pepper spray).
http://www.nij.gov/nij/topics/law-enforcement/officer-safety/use-of-force/continuum.htm
Recall Pepper Spray can be lethal.
http://www.less-lethal.org/web/home.aspx
Justifiable homicide: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justifiable_homicide Police can kill people and if justifiable (court decides) it will be a claimed as a Justifiable homicide.
So, yes, passive non violent protest is fine but even that can lead to the use of chemical weapons and even Justifiable homicide. You may have your cameras and witnesses but it is not enough as absolute proof.
OWS has very little change unless you use the law and know the law.
Do not think you can copy-cat the arab spring. You are in a totally different ballgame. Even if you walk on the street alone (not protesting) you can be pepper sprayed or killed by police.
Is has been said that "police are also human". Absolutely not. The police force is not human in any way or form. You have to understand that "nice police" does not exist. Yes, they can seem nice like they are humans but this has nothing to do with the fact that they are police. Your mother is a human also but she can hit you so understand that even if your mother is - your mother - she is also there to keep order!
I was on board with this until the last paragraph, which is one of the most ridiculous things i've ever read. If you want your cause to be taken seriously (which it should be) you should think hard about what you're saying and what you're implying. I don't think you want a world without police officers, they serve and protect, and sometimes they make mistakes. Making mistakes is a part of being human. It's almost impossible to take your cause seriously when you open your mouth and make unfounded statements like you did in this last paragraph. You completely discredited yourself.
Agreed. Are there corrupt Police officers? Yes, but that small % does not represent them all. Either way, people should know how to defend themselves against pepper spray and tear gas. @OccupyMedia on twitter made a great poster about this, which is featured on one of our articles: http://occupyunveiled.blogspot.com/2011/10/defending-against-tear-gas.html
Idiot idiot and more so... not you but all you gullible nincompoops who just has no idea.
Police protect, yes, sure. What?
So, back to basics. 2 plus 2 equals four. Right?
I am not going into educating you nor anyone. So just for your amusement: http://www.engdahl.oilgeopolitics.net
PS. People like you do scare me. Stupidity first and last. As always. It starts in the government controlled schools and even at Harward etc. all controlled by a very few people and you do not want to know who they are.
As an MP, I was sprayed with OC (pepper spray) in order to carry it. I was also exposed to tear gas several times. As these "chemical weapons" are not lethal, they are not covered by the Geneva Conventions. As for the police not being a human, only a sub-human scumbag would write or think such a thing. This movement has dissolved into a lunatic left-wing protest group and will soon collapse.
The police is a force and an entity. Not people. Look it up. Secondly pepper spray is known to be lethal and consists of a chemical compound hence it is a chemical weapon and such weapons are illegal to use in wartime as well as is pepper spray specifically. Look that up and please return.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-lethal_weapon
It is so sad and part of today's problems that MP's are as uneducated as you display. Sad sad sad. But true and you prove it spot on.
What, may I ask, are you an MP of?