Forum Post: Tea Party or OWS
Posted 12 years ago on Dec. 6, 2011, 10:55 a.m. EST by danmi
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I am not either a Tea Party or an OWS member, I am an independent. I have read quite a few post on this forum and some are very good while others are kind of hateful. One thing is for certain that we as Americans need to pull together and get along, otherwise our Nation is not never going to improve. The Gov is loving it that the Country is divided because they can continue with their corruption or as "business as usual"
The original gullible tea-baggers were trumped.Their remnant is now a shell for the 1%. The movement has waned. Thanks to OWS most tea-baggers identify with the 99%. You too can find yourself and support OWS.
Why didn't the occupiers call themselves the 'TEA PARTY'? Because it was already taken. The income war was declared by the ows, and now they are trying to re-unite the country? BS. The government is us and we are the government.
"With the rise of democracy, the identification of the State with society has been redoubled, until it is common to hear sentiments expressed which violate virtually every tenet of reason and common sense such as, "we are the government." The useful collective term "we" has enabled an ideological camouflage to be thrown over the reality of political life. If "we are the government," then anything a government does to an individual is not only just and untyrannical but also "voluntary" on the part of the individual concerned. If the government has incurred a huge public debt which must be paid by taxing one group for the benefit of another, this reality of burden is obscured by saying that "we owe it to ourselves"; if the government conscripts a man, or throws him into jail for dissident opinion, then he is "doing it to himself" and, therefore, nothing untoward has occurred. Under this reasoning, any Jews murdered by the Nazi government were not murdered; instead, they must have "committed suicide," since they were the government (which was democratically chosen), and, therefore, anything the government did to them was voluntary on their part. One would not think it necessary to belabor this point, and yet the overwhelming bulk of the people hold this fallacy to a greater or lesser degree.
We must, therefore, emphasize that "we" are not the government; the government is not "us." The government does not in any accurate sense "represent" the majority of the people.[1] But, even if it did, even if 70 percent of the people decided to murder the remaining 30 percent, this would still be murder and would not be voluntary suicide on the part of the slaughtered minority.[2] No organicist metaphor, no irrelevant bromide that "we are all part of one another," must be permitted to obscure this basic fact.
If, then, the State is not "us," if it is not "the human family" getting together to decide mutual problems, if it is not a lodge meeting or country club, what is it? Briefly, the State is that organization in society which attempts to maintain a monopoly of the use of force and violence in a given territorial area; in particular, it is the only organization in society that obtains its revenue not by voluntary contribution or payment for services rendered but by coercion. While other individuals or institutions obtain their income by production of goods and services and by the peaceful and voluntary sale of these goods and services to others, the State obtains its revenue by the use of compulsion; that is, by the use and the threat of the jailhouse and the bayonet.[3] Having used force and violence to obtain its revenue, the State generally goes on to regulate and dictate the other actions of its individual subjects. One would think that simple observation of all States through history and over the globe would be proof enough of this assertion; but the miasma of myth has lain so long over State activity that elaboration is necessary."
http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/rothbard62.html
Let's call a spade a spade; you all are bunch of pole smoking assholes. How is your OWS project going? What a bunch of fucking assholes. Next up, Occupy My Ass; a cult function for queers, trannies and liberal fudgepackers. What a disgusting disgrace
So why is it 'occupy wall street' and not 'occupy America' or 'occupy the world'? Because it was started by rich people to use stupid people for their agenda. Who did the Romans send into battle first? Their best fighters? No, the mentally challenged and old, just like ows.
Somehow we have to become the party of one and when we do then "our" party will be able to take our Country back. The Gov has grown to large and they have forgotten that they "work for us" and we do not "work for them"
ows works for no one, other than the rich elitists, for free. Good job defending the useless.