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Forum Post: Support an Independant Presidential Candidate Who Stands With #OWS

Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 10, 2011, 9:37 a.m. EST by crv2012 (37)
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Support an INDEPENDENT PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE who STANDS WITH #OWS, who supports and agrees with 99% of nycga's grievances and goals:

www.savingamericaspromise.com www.chadvanvoorhis.com

The career politicians will never support the type of corporate lobbying and government reform we need... Now is the time! We are the 99%!

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[-] 1 points by FUCKTHENWO (280) from RIVERDALE, MD 13 years ago

Make it happen:

http://occupywallst.org/forum/why-end-the-federal-reserve-and-what-do-you-replac/

We have so much technical knowhow yet we as a nation operate so inefficiently. Why? There are so many people out of work. Why? We have so much to accomplish. We are in 14.8 trillion dollars of debt. This is the government’s job to figure out. Our current government is inefficient and ineffective. They continue to indebt our country via the Federal Reserve Board. We will not give up until the Federal Reserve Board is fired by the United States government. We will not give up until a constitutional amendment takes the money out of politics.

This isn't an attack on the rich. There is nothing wrong with being rich. There is a problem with being rich and stealing from the poor. There is a problem with few people controlling the wealth, and to that end there is a problem when those who control the wealth are not helping their country and society progress.

How do the rich steal from the poor, you might ask?

Think about it like this: wealthy individuals put extra money in the banking system in order to earn more money without doing anything productive. On the other hand, poor individuals borrow money from the bank which they then pay interest on, in order to grow the money of rich people. Much of the middle and lower class inevitably become enslaved to their debt. Is that the free market? An endless cycle of debt? An economy which utilizes wars and exploitation to sustain itself. Fuck naw. That aint right. That aint American.

Whether you'd like to believe it or not, we are all slaves to the mass debt that America has accrued over the years. What will we do? How can we break free?

End the Federal Reserve. It's unconstitutional and damn-fucking immoral.

Some say real free-market economics is the best system, although we've never really seen what it looks like. The current fractional reserve banking system is not the free market. In my opinion the most innovative, necessary, and implementable solution is a resource based economy, when you take the 14.8 trillion dollars of debt into consideration.

Project Earth: A Resource Based Economy Explained http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDhSgCsD_x8

If you love capitalism, but hate the Federal Reserve, ask yourself this: if the current market is a failure, how can you erase the world's debt? We in the US owe the world everything. Not only are we indebted to the world literally, but we, the leaders of the free world, have been leading the destruction of the environment for how long? Do we not owe it to the world to fix it? We have much of the world's resources. We have one of the greatest education system in the world. What are we doing wrong?!?! Why do we not take it upon ourselves to construct a sustainable global economy that is based on the natural resources of the planet and use this economy the repay our debt to the world. I know people love to fantasize about the wealthy and powerful America, but listen, we're indebted to the world! Time to grow a pair and pay the world back. And I know, a resource based economy is “Communist” and “Utopian;” STOP ASSIGNING MEAINGLESS WORDS TO IDEAS. The system is a resource based economy, and it is neither communist nor utopian. It is a progressive economy that is backed by tangible items and utilizes the scientific method to achieve optimal efficiency.

And why should the American people care? Because the United States of America is in 14.8 trillion dollars of debt. The financial system is set to crash, leaving the American people to suffer through years of economic depression. There is nothing Ben Bernanke can do about it, there is nothing Tim Geithner can do about it. The people of the United States did not accrue this massive debt. Our irresponsible, ineffective, and inefficient government hired the Federal Reserve Board so that they could print all of the money in the world. This, my friends is unconstitutional. They printed money to go to war, they printed money to bailout those who were too big to fail.

NO MORE! NO MORE WILL WE FOLLOW SUCH IRRESPONSIBLE LEADERSHIP.

END THE FED.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFz1VVXsWRU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oe0fGXzKb1o&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lac9O7dHHfo&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTUY16CkS-k http://www.scribd.com/doc/6400129/End-the-Fed-Nationwide-Rally-Newsletter http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/09/24/the-federal-reserve-vs-the-constitution/ http://dmc.members.sonic.net/sentinel/naij2.html http://drrobertowens.com/2011/09/30/is-the-federal-reserve-constitutional/ http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5232639329002339531 http://www.healthfreedom.info/Federal_Reserve_Fraud.htm

[-] 1 points by crv2012 (37) 13 years ago

Not really... who wants to change the entire government? It will never happen...

What America needs is a dramatic swift stroke that will fix things, but leave everything in place at least for now so no one is left behind and no one gets too jacked out of shape.

[-] 1 points by JeffBlock2012 (272) 13 years ago

so you want to change something with a dramatic swift stroke, but not change anything? What would be this dramatic swift stroke?

[-] 1 points by coolnyc (216) from Stone Ridge, NY 13 years ago

We have to be careful about bad results from vote splitting. Better to focus on the House this first go around.

[-] 1 points by crv2012 (37) 13 years ago

Sadly, no one sees... no matter how you shuffle the cards, you cannot win... they become owned by the corporations as soon as they get to the capital door... :(

How many decades does it take the American people to learn?

And vote split? Oh, yeah... lets vote for someone who won't do what we believe in because they don't either... the lesser of two evils philosopy has brought us right to this point in our nation's history...

Sad

[-] 1 points by crv2012 (37) 13 years ago

If we keep voting for the same parties, we will continue with the same results.