Forum Post: Stop Investing for ONE QUARTER!!
Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 13, 2011, 10:30 a.m. EST by kimmid
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Leave your investments where they are if you like, but don't add anymore for the next quarter---You will see ACTION. This is the only way the top 1% will ever notice us. Look at your 401's, 407's, pensions, etc. You will find that you are not getting dividends. If you are, they are very small. They know that most investors only look at the stock/mutual fund value at the end of each quarter and don't realize that they should be getting a share of the profits in the form of dividends. Where do the profits go? Huge salaries and bonuses for the 1%.The top 1% wouldn't be where they are without the 99% doing the work they do! I have nothing against capitalism, and most people don't, but they want to keep EVERYTHING for themselves. Your investments are your power--- do something!
Pull your money out of the big banks and start investing, depositing into the smaller local banks.
Better yet, invest elsewhere as more potently focused social force, which is why what we most immediately need is a comprehensive strategy, and related candidate, that implements all our demands at the same time, and although I'm all in favor of taking down today's ineffective and inefficient Top 10% Management System of Business & Government, there's only one way to do it – by fighting bankers as bankers ourselves. Consequently, I have posted a 1-page Summary of the Strategic Legal Policies, Organizational Operating Structures, and Tactical Investment Procedures necessary to do this at:
http://getsatisfaction.com/americanselect/topics/on_strategic_legal_policy_organizational_operational_structures_tactical_investment_procedures
Join
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/StrategicInternationalSystems/
if you want to be 1 of 100,000 people needed to support a Presidential Candidate – such as myself or another you'd like to draft – at AmericansElect.org in support of the above bank-focused platform.
Some of you really need to take some business or personal finance classes or something... Your post shows a fundamental misunderstanding of investing/how companies work.
In fact, most people with a 401K, etc., likely will see dividend payments independent of any gains/losses on the share value of stocks held either directly or indirectly in the form of mutual funds. The level of dividend payments received will depend on what stocks/funds you own and you have a choice of what you prefer to invest in for your particular circumstances, risk tolerance, etc. I hold some that pay up to 17%.
The amount of dividends paid depends on the company's approach with respect to use of cash in light of business strategy. Generally speaking, larger, more stable companies pay out a higher level of dividends in the form of cash to shareholders. Smaller, faster growing companies don't pay any dividend preferring to use the money to grow the business, REITs and MLPs, etc., pay out all profits directly to shareholders in the form of dividends. The share price/value of the stock largely is independent of the dividend.
In any case, people know or at least should know what to expect in the way of dividends from any investment before they put their money in since, generally, such things are declared and very easily researched and in most cases don't change a lot quarter-to-quarter. Likewise, compensation levels for management and management fees for funds are easily found. If you don't like the levels/approach, then you don't have to put your money into them.
Finally, you investing in the open market trading of the stock of a company doesn't really affect the company itself directly since you're not buying the shares from the company, you're trading shares that have already been sold with other investors. The company already received the proceeds of the original stock sale long before.
Thanks for the input. I don't run a company, but my investments were up 40% so far this year--until this week because I hedge. It's worked well for me so far. You may be surrounded by more investment savvy people than I am---I'm a nurse--- but, most people really don't understand their investments. What I'm saying is, the dividends aren't there in many cases when they could be. Growing the company is mainly for small companies as you said, but exorbitant salaries and bonuses are coming from profits. That's all I'm trying to say.
Nope, I'm still investing because the government programs (Social Insecurity, Medi-Care, etc.) won't be here in 20 years. Kimmid can rely on this government, but I won't.
I'm talking ONE quarter-- not your whole life.
The top 1% thinks they are untouchable and entitled. They talk money.
This is the way to speak their language. People need to realize that this greed runs very deep, and it will take a big idea to change the status quo. We need to work collectively on something big or it won't work!
Nope again! I cannot rely on you, kimmid, to provide for me and my family. Nor can I rely on this government. I can and will continue to produce my products for 'X' and sell them for 'Y' and use those profits to live on and invest in the future. Your idea is flawed to the bone. 'Collectively' only worked in Cuba, Soviet Union, Chairman Mao's Revolution and the Killing Fields....not America. BTW: all those 'collective' deals......yeah, literally millions of dead bodies were the result. THINK!!!!!
Then what's your great idea Mr. End of the World? Do you really think standing around is going to suddenly change these peoples principles?
I'm getting in the shower and GOING TO WORK NOW!!!! You can sit in your mom's basement for the rest of the day...bye bye:
Here's the real enemy:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/general-electric-paid-federal-taxes-2010/story?id=13224558
GE's president supports Obama's jobs bill, which is interesting. He says it will increase employment.
By strengthening Obama, is he also increasing the chance that Obama's plan for closing corporate tax loopholes would get passed? That would mean GE would have to start paying income tax, which they don't now. Maybe Immelt has a clue about the welfare of this economy. We can hope.
GE is the enemy...period: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/general-electric-paid-federal-taxes-2010/story?id=13224558
Oh, Brother.. Can't handle an intelligent discussion?
You don't need to do this. Every time you consume you are voting. If you like a product/service then your purchase keeps that company in power. If you don't like a corporations policies then your rejection is a vote of no. Consumers in a capitalist economy have multiple choices and when they choose it's liberty. When the government decides our choices, or restricts them, it's no longer liberty nor fair.
Very difficult to research the dividend payouts from the companies of everything I buy! If people are serious about this movement, it's going to take more than assembling. The top 1% thinks they are untouchable and entitled. They talk money and power, period. People need to collectively work on a strategy that effects the top 1%'s money/power.
nope but lets make them pay dividends again
how?
ehh looks like the movements not realy going to care what congress or this government is doing in a couple months .just make sure you throw it in the charter resolution declaration whatever it is their sending to the national assembly.