Forum Post: Steve Jobs
Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 7, 2011, 12:33 p.m. EST by JackPulliam3rd
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Why does he get a pass when his products were made in China? And made in a factory that had a ton of suicides because the working conditions were so bad.
Give back you IPod, IPhone, IPad
Welcome to the future http://tiny.cc/mus42
Agreed, all of these guys love to pat each other on the back but they are exploiting the world by operating in countries that have no labor laws or environmental regulations, and sending their products back to a middle class that soon will not be able to afford anything, at the rate the Fed is going.
Our Congress allows them to operate this way. They are bought, as many have rightly pointed out here and elsewhere.
How does Foxconn suicide rate compare to the suicide rate in general in China?
Now you sound like Fake Steve Jobs.
If it was any other member of the 1% everyone would be going batshit crazy, but hey, iPods are really cool, so who cares.
The number of suicides at Foxconn is high, not because of how it compares to an overall statistic, but because so many happened in such a localized environment.
Having been to China a couple of times, I would say Foxconn's management is more to blame than the tech companies who contracted for production there. China is like the wild west and everyone is trying to get over on everyone else.
However, at the first sign of trouble, the tech companies should have immediately moved production, but that would have put thousands of poverty level Chinese out of work.
I think the onus should fall on the companies who are doing the contracting to perform proper due diligence. Instead, they seem to turn a blind eye because of the bottom-line benefits of low labor costs. Similar to how the US will support dictators who are clear abusers of human rights but are sympathetic to our leaders' goals.
E waste, on the other hand, is a big issue, see my above post.
You are VERY right about that. That video is horrific.
Capital goes to areas where labor is more exploitable. http://tiny.cc/xxp4k
I fear for what will happen Africa eventually.
I'm asking a relevant question. If the suicide rate at Foxconn is 5% and the suicide rate in their society is 5%, then there is no difference.
Don't let ideology cloud thinking.
Happened at the Foxconn plant. Here's a wiki on it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn_suicides
Not just Apple, though.
Google Foxconn and suicides.
Or check this fake steve entry that I love
http://www.fakesteve.net/2010/05/another-foxconn-jumper-and-you-know-whos-the-real-victim-me.html
Can you cite the sources to this please? I've never heard that, would like to read the reference source.
He's absolutely right, it's the same factory that makes most the parts for the majority of our technology, not just apple. It's actually been pretty well publicized lately.