Forum Post: Sometimes You Only Have Yourself To Blame, Not A Banker
Posted 12 years ago on Dec. 23, 2011, 4:40 p.m. EST by earnyours
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This is a disgrace, people mindlessly lining up to buy damn tennis shoes. Are they under mind control of a banker? Are they once again victims as liberals, of course, whine? Is it simply impossible to make any judgments from what we see, again as liberals would have us believe? How about they're just using their freedom and making, yet again, another bad choice out of their own stupidity?
Sometimes people really do just have themselves to blame. Choices matter. Choices drive our lives. Bad choices do too. OWS would do well to recognize this bit of reality. Occupy stupidity, protest an event like this and try to edjumakate people to make better decisions.
That's only true, sometimes.
The rest of time, it really was a banker.
A Wallstreet banker, to be more exact.
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No I'm sure its always the bankers fault(Sarcasm).
This is why we are here this is why you are needed.
http://occupywallst.org/forum/inside-job-documentary/
Share, circulate, educate, inspire.
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Great, let's agree to stop mass immigration of skill-free people. Importing poverty just gets us labeled as unjust by leftwing moonbats that lack the math skills to know that importing 6th grade drop outs will worsen our social metrics.
The truth is that many people like you refuse to look at what is truly going on. It is increasingly clear that the people are being controlled by a few elite. You are just angry that people are showing their discontent so you attack them with your infantile insults. You think this will discourage them? Think again. Things will change. The elite will not be there to pay you for attacking us and what will you do?
MInd control is it? Free will itself has no succumb to the power of bankers? Better decision making remains well within the control of all of us. These people tripping over themselves to throw money they don't have at tennis shoes like some gorillas fighting over the last banana shows it well. Sometimes, you really do just have yourself to blame. These people would find a way to fuck themselves no matter how extensively you tried to protect. Govt can protect you somewhat from others, but it really can't protect you from you.
I agree that weometimes let ourselves go, but you cannot deny that the bankers still act the way they do. Interesting how so many people see the government as a separate entity from the people. Maybe that is the problem, people see the Government as a different organism and therefore they forget the phrase "by the people, for the people". If you consider this: we are the government, well at least we sould be, that is what the people have to move for a change in thinking about what they are. Interesting.
Here's the thing, bankers don't make people borrow money, that's a choice. If you don't believe me, you just haven't asked someone old enough to get beyond the recent debt culture.
But the banks didn't nothing by themselves. We had a broad period of stability. Institutions and individuals walked up their risk taking and leverage. The banks themselves borrowed heavily as did Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. You probably have someone on your street that borrowed money for a vacation or that has a 6 year car note.
Choices matter. The OWS obsession with bankers and blame misses the great control over our lives that we already have. Want to punish a banker? Put down the damn credit card. Pay down your debts. Don't be so mindless as to be talked into tennis shoes.
You seem that you get this. OWS is a dead end of blame.
It is true that people have to put some of the blame onto themselves, but we cannot exclude the bankers who lied to a trusting populace and then took much of the money for themselves. We cannot just blame one or the other, we must blame everyone, even ourselves. Me and you, them and us. If the world is to be changed into something good than not only the economics must change we must also change ourselves in the process. Either that or this revolution is lost!
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Oh please, this conduct does NOT EXCUSE the bankers . . . in the LEAST bit or compare with the destruction the bankers have wrought.
The bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create money, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough deposits to buy it back again. However, take it away from them, and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in. But, if you wish to remain the slaves of bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create money.” – Sir Josiah Stamp, Director of the Bank of England (appointed 1928). Reputed to be the 2nd wealthiest man in England at that time.
Aw shucks, that's no banker, just another greedy corporation, over charging for shoes.
Well marketed shoes at that.
Shoes marketed with a manipulated sense of supply and demand, in Texas, no less.
The place that also gave us Bush, Perry and that whiny Mr. P.
The biggest thing they seem to grow in Texas, would appear to be bozos.
At least they didn't have a shoot out over them.
"Damn those Air Jordans! It's all George Bush's fault.". I've seen some pretty amazing connect-the-dots-to-Bush in the last three years, but this is the best one yet. Pretty soon, you guys are going to start referring to him as "the one who must not be named..."
Won't happen.
Mr. P has that designation, for good reason.
I just won't let so called "conservatives", shove Bush down the memory hole.
C'mon, you know you want to enshrine him, like you did Reagan.
People make bad buying choices because a banker paid an advertiser to mentally condition human's to believe that material goods are the only thing that will make them happy.--------------------- But happiness can only come when we spend time with family and friends. experiencing this marvelous thing we call life-- TOGETHER
Yeah, I know that liberals have to find it somewhere, sort of like the Kevin Bacon game. There's always a banker. It's just fun to see how far you'll go.
You dont have to be a liberal or a conservative to know that the central banking cartel is fleecing the general public.
we will go to the ends of the earth, to get even with the bankers.
While everyone else moves on to make better lives for themselves.
That's a good boy! Good boy!!!
You sure do like to say that when someone disagrees with your movement. I guess the plan is to treat people like dogs if you get your way. pathetic.
If you were here to merely disagree that would be one thing. You are not. You are here because you are a Koch head.
wow.
You are dillusional and paranoid. I do not work for Koch industries but if I did I would be proud of it. They do pay well and provide better than average benefits. Your problem is that for most of your life you have been able to kick, scream, and cry your way to get what you want because those around you have been too weak to put you straight about the world and life in general. Now you have a grown up, like myself, who will not tolerate such nonsense and you still feel that youe best argument is throwing yourself on the floor in a temper tantrum, or covering your ears yelling "I can't hear you". personally, I think someone just needs to slap you a few times then you just might realize that the only one against you is yourself. Stop blaming others for the misery you brought on yourself. Stop acting like a child and go see a freakin shrink for the paranoia.
You are an uneducated hill-jack. Your problem is that you are a spoiled piece of shit that believes that you can run around and say but I don't like it is enough of a view to even entertain.
But it is not. You have not grown up. You have the intellect of gnat. You are brainwashed piece of shit and a walking case for a late term abortion.
Have a blessed day. :D
This is not one of those times:
http://occupywallst.org/forum/the-great-satan/
The Revolution starts here!
The mindless sheeple have always been with us and always will be. Every once in a while they come out to play then bad shit happens like the guy getting stabbed to death at the Eugene Occupy protest and they crawl back into their little pathetic holes.
Your argument seems to be that when people make bad choices they should be held accountable. Agreed. You further argue that activist should not excuse this behavior. Agreed. You offer a remedy for stupidity--protesting. Do you realize who your biggest opponent will be? Not your target, the stupid, but the merchants and, possibly, yes possibly their bankers as well. What say ye?
Sure, a banker's gotta be in there somewhere. LOL.
OWSers blame blame blame. But here are people making themselves worse off all by their own stupid selves: something that doesn't exist in the world of OWS.
Want less poverty? Demand better choices.
You blame people for making bad choices, but can you blame them for making the best choice they are aware of? Is it their fault they are so uninformed when the media is owned by the same people profiting off of the bad decisions?
It is true we need to demand better choices. So I ask, who is it limiting our choices?
That's hilarious, now we're going to lower the standard to "best choice they're aware of"? Yes, it is their fault.
I never said people are blameless, ignorance is no excuse for making harmful choices.
But I also do not think people should blame themselves for being uninformed when big corps have spent so much time, money, and energy in preventing us from knowing or at least not to believe there is a better choice.
Back in the day being ignorant was a personal choice, today you blame ignorance on anyone but the individual.
Good, that's a first step.
Of course you should blame yourself for being uninformed. Fuck, we're talking tennis shoes, not molecular biology! Liberals are relentless in lowering the bar just enough to permit the ongoing cult of victimhood.
brainwashed figas
Maybe the mofia has controll of the world, I wouldn't even try to come up with 101 excuses for the things people do that doesn't make any sense at all.
How can you tell the difference between wall street and the mafia these days. Mf global - Corzine the high stakes gambler and JP Morgan the loan shark. hundreds of millions of farmers money missing. Airline bankruptcies where they gut the pension funds to clean up the balance sheet and walk away with the airline intact and the little guy screwed again, how different is that from the mob getting control of a restaurant getting all the cash they can out of it and then burning it down for the insurance. All those bond deals with Mexico and Greece when Goldman or Morgan Stanly that use math instead of a printing press to counterfeit money, convertible debt financing that makes mafia loan sharks look like Sunday school teachers. The mafia has a lot to learn from these guys
They are all greedy sobs and the basters on wall street are killing people. They just don't do the dirty work themselves.
The gang on wall street are doing what they do they are risk takers, gamblers traders, opportunists, I'm sure there's even a few boring old bankers still left there. The problem we have is that we let the fox into the hen house. I really don't have a problem with wall street doing what it does, but they should not be a part of our banking system, we should not be using citizens bank deposits and our fed to loan money to hedge funds and wall street banks. People engaged in risky trading like Corzine should not also have access to customer funds. People selling credit default swaps like AIG should not be doing it in a company that holds insurance policies and annuity funds for thousands of citizens. This kind of risk taking will always exist and be a part of wall street it just needs to be separated out so that we are not a part of it. Let them go bankrupt if they mess up but don't let them take us down with them.
they are leaches
Come out, come out where ever you are!!!!!
Whose a good boy? Whose a good boy?
Oh, yeah, Hiya, fucktwit!!!!