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Forum Post: Solar power to replace gas and bio fuel generators.

Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 28, 2011, 9:07 p.m. EST by thefirstknight26 (2)
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Hey, I heard that the gas and bio fuel generators are supposed hazard. Why not purchase solar power generators? There is nothing hazardous about that is there? Its not using flammable materials and if the generator is covered it can prevent water damage and electrocution. I think if you buy maybe 10 or more you can power the whole camp. What do you guys think? Would you be able to ask the officials why the old generators are hazardous. If you can get an official statement saying that it uses "flamable energy source" then you can surely replace it with renewable power. I would also suggest using wind power generators too. You guys have the money from the donations to buy this equiptment right? Worth the investment during the winter and summer months. Thanks! http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&sugexp=kjrmc&cp=22&gs_id=4f&xhr=t&q=solar+power+generators&qe=c29sYXIgcG93ZXIgZ2VuZXJhdG9ycw&qesig=Oimnb36o3DdpiQvLOQuA8g&pkc=AFgZ2tnusR190FnMjUvAA6sPEhbRnh3l-StRZvXg1pdMqZ4e8t2k5P4h1vmRLzuJaIRTmwmPUl2uOVrTdcMGoatMkmVT6H6GFQ&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&biw=1440&bih=682&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=4585104137748208637&sa=X&ei=E0-rTt2sFM-CsgLx_rz-Dg&sqi=2&ved=0CJABEPMCMAE

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[-] 1 points by MaxRommel (57) from Ridgefield Park, NJ 13 years ago

I actually have two fireplaces going right now in the Hamptons.

[-] 1 points by NateNine (23) 13 years ago

Fine idea, incredibly overpriced product. Coleman brands a Sunforce solar kit that would charge up a deep-cycle 12V battery just fine - the only benefit to this thing is it supplies AC current at ten times the cost and a tenth of the efficiency.

http://www.batteryjunction.com/coleman-58050.html

[-] 1 points by thefirstknight26 (2) 13 years ago

obviously you are the moron and lack critical thinking. They have mini wind generators that are priced around under a $1000 and shut down when the battery is completely charged. They stand around 7 feet tall. Its called thinking and solving a problem. you can even have multiple green energy generators. Pedal power and hand cranks are great too! You can setup shifts of people who pedal a half hour to an hour each and can get a great work out. Please get off the forum, you obviously have nothing to contribute.

[-] 1 points by cyberluddite (1) 13 years ago

hand-crank and pedal-power generators are the obvious alternatives, given that you've got many potential volunteers wandering around. can be bought or built, just search the net.

[-] 1 points by RobertYellowTie (18) from Brooklyn, NY 13 years ago

A nice thought but Zuccotti gets no sun.

[-] 1 points by MaxRommel (57) from Ridgefield Park, NJ 13 years ago

Let them eat cake!

[-] 1 points by Howtodoit (1232) 13 years ago

right on! http://bigthink.com/ideas/31635?page=all

http://www.livescience.com/4824-solar-power-rule-20-years-futurists.html

BOSTON — He predicted the fall of the Soviet Union. He predicted the explosive spread of the Internet and wireless access.

Now futurist and inventor Ray Kurzweil is part of distinguished panel of engineers that says solar power will scale up to produce all the energy needs of Earth's people in 20 years.

There is 10,000 times more sunlight than we need to meet 100 percent of our energy needs, he says, and the technology needed for collecting and storing it is about to emerge as the field of solar energy is going to advance exponentially in accordance with Kurzweil's Law of Accelerating Returns. That law yields a doubling of price performance in information technologies every year.

Kurzweil, author of "The Singularity Is Near" and "The Age of Intelligent Machines," worked on the solar energy solution with Google Co-Founder Larry Page as part of a panel of experts convened by the National Association of Engineers to address the 14 "grand challenges of the 21st century," including making solar energy more economical. The panel's findings were announced here last week at the annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science.

Solar to compete in five years

Solar and wind power currently supply about 1 percent of the world's energy needs, Kurzweil said, but advances in technology are about to expand with the introduction of nano-engineered materials for solar panels, making them far more efficient, lighter and easier to install. Google has invested substantially in companies pioneering these approaches.

Regardless of any one technology, members of the panel are "confident that we are not that far away from a tipping point where energy from solar will be [economically] competitive with fossil fuels," Kurzweil said, adding that it could happen within five years.

The reason why solar energy technologies will advance exponentially, Kurzweil said, is because it is an "information technology" (one for which we can measure the information content), and thereby subject to the Law of Accelerating Returns.

"We also see an exponential progression in the use of solar energy," he said. "It is doubling now every two years. Doubling every two years means multiplying by 1,000 in 20 years. At that rate we'll meet 100 percent of our energy needs in 20 years."

Other technologies that will help are solar concentrators made of parabolic mirrors that focus very large areas of sunlight onto a small collector or a small efficient steam turbine. The energy can be stored using nano-engineered fuel cells, Kurzweil said.

"You could, for example, create hydrogen or hydrogen-based fuels from the energy produced by solar panels and then use that to create fuel for fuel cells, he said. There are already nano-engineered fuel cells, microscopic in size, that can be scaled up to store huge quantities of energy, he said.

Other grand challenges

The NAE panel thinks that meeting the energy challenge and the other grand challenges of the 21st century is "simply imperative to our survival on the planet," said panel member Charles Vest, former president of MIT and current NAE president. Other challenges that the panel addressed include providing access to clean water , engineering better medicines, reverse engineering the brain, securing cyberspace and enhancing virtual reality.

[-] 1 points by RaimundimDaCaucaia (23) 13 years ago

No need for that.

Today, humanity entered the Cold Fusion Era.

Use an "Energy Catalyzer" (the Cold Fusion heater)