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Forum Post: Socio-political Management of Wealth

Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 19, 2011, 10:31 a.m. EST by sleonard (54) from Cranford, NJ
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I found this relevant passage in Zinn’s People’s History of the United States. It’s from a 1776 convention to write a state constitution for Pennsylvania. This was a proposal for a bill of rights to accompany that constitution.

[We should oppose the rise of] great and overgrown rich men . . . they will be too apt to be framing distinctions in society . . . an enormous amount of property vested in a few individuals is dangerous to the rights, and destructive to the common happiness, of mankind; and therefore every free state hath a right by its laws to discourage the possession of such property.

Many critics of Occupy Wall Street claim we should be focusing on government as the problem, not Wall Street. How naïve. As the passage shows the common people back then were well aware of the dangers of concentrated power in the hands of a few, be it aristocrats, the government, the wealthy, or any combination of each. One discernible trend in the history and evolution of civil liberty is the redistribution of power (and money is power) to a broader social group. That is what the Magna Carta, U.S. Constitution, and many subsequent amendments did. We don’t need to destroy the wealthy, I am not a communist, but we would be fools not to keep them in check.

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[-] 1 points by gtyper (477) from San Antonio, TX 13 years ago

The opponents are still correct, as are you.

The issues facing this country manifest from many different heads. To slay the beast, you have to attack the heads properly.

The point the opponents make is that so long as these people with concentrated wealth and their corporations continue to buy out our political process -- no real fixes or dialogue can be had.

So, it isn't that opponents necessarily feel corporations and the wealthy elite are free from blame. It's that their influence will continue until we cut it off and disallow that influence to exist.

Then the next steps can be discussed in a real, honest and open manner.

[-] 1 points by sleonard (54) from Cranford, NJ 13 years ago

In the parlance of the 60s - Right on!

[-] 1 points by gtyper (477) from San Antonio, TX 13 years ago

Maybe I listen to too much Hendrix and Morrison? Ha.

[-] 1 points by sleonard (54) from Cranford, NJ 13 years ago

Could we ever listen too much?!

[-] 1 points by gtyper (477) from San Antonio, TX 13 years ago

Touche, sir. Touche.

[-] 1 points by sleonard (54) from Cranford, NJ 13 years ago

They got the guns, we got the numbers.....

[-] 1 points by gtyper (477) from San Antonio, TX 13 years ago

We're gonna win -- yeah, we're takin' over!!! COME ON!!!

[-] 1 points by PlasmaStorm (242) 13 years ago

sleonard, look at the actual countries that have practiced this. My favorite current example would be Zimbabwe.

The worst thing about the problem is Zimbabwe is, no one even cares. The black farmers who took land from whites? How do these people lives with themselves?

History has shown that angry mobs -- who have no stake in the status quo -- are substantially more dangerous than rich people, who have a stake in the success of an economy.

[-] 1 points by sleonard (54) from Cranford, NJ 13 years ago

Sorry, don't buy it. What happened in Zimbabwe was rash and ill advised, but I still think we can challenge and mitigate the power of the rich over us. Truth is, they don't have a stake in society, they have a stake in their worth, and the people don't realy matter to them.

[-] 1 points by PandoraK (1678) 13 years ago

Nice