Forum Post: So where's the convoy?
Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 14, 2011, 1:01 a.m. EST by Toddtjs
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again: One of the main pillars of Conservative propaganda is that both parties are the same. Nothing they say is further from the truth. It is an insidious lie intended to demoralize progressives, and discourage them from voting. Do not fall for this canard, because if both parties are the same, there is no hope for change, and therefore no reason to vote. The truth is that there is a difference between the parties. A stark difference! One party works for the rich, the other party works for all Americans. One party takes money from the needy to feed the greedy, and the other party takes money from the greedy to feed the needy. One party has plans and policies to create jobs, and the other party has a long list of lame excuses for not doing anything. Liberals want to change things. Conservatives want things to stay the same. There is a difference. One party wants to tax the rich, and the other party wants to tax the poor. One party wants to destroy Unions, and the other party wants to support them. One party supports the Occupation of Wall Street, and the other party doesn’t. One party wants to rebuild America, and the other party doesn’t. One party wants to provide health care for all, and the other party doesn’t. One party wants to regulate Wall Street, and the other party doesn’t. One Party wants to end the wars; the other party wants them to go on forever. There is a difference. One party is Myopic, and the other party is Far Sighted. One party wants to help the Middle Class, and the other party is at war with the Middle Class. One party wants to fire Teachers, and the other party wants to hire them. One party wants to create more jobs in America, and the other party wants to create more jobs in Asia. There is a difference. One party wants to protect pensions, and the other party wants to loot them. One party has a heart, and the other party has Ann Coulter. One party protects the right bear Arms, and the other party protects the right of freedom of assembly. One party believes that the only role for the Government is to provide for the common defense, and the other party believes that the Government should also promote the general Welfare. There is a difference, and anybody that tells you there is no difference between the parties is simply not conversant with reality. In addition, anyone that blames the Democrats for the current state of affairs has no understanding of who controls the Government. One Party has the Presidency, and the other party has the Majority in the House, controls the Senate, has a majority on the Supreme Court, and is responsible for current economic policy. So, if you’re angry, and you want to start a real fight, I submit that we should start a real fight with the Conservatives! America has a Two Party System. One party is clearly on your side, the other party thinks you’re and Anti-American mob. At some point in time you’re going to have to pick one. Choose wisely, your future is at stake
I don't believe this. Both parties work for corporations, not American citizens. And I don't think we should be looking to "start a fight", we need to not be aggressive and dehumanize people, no matter what party they favor. PLEASE watch this video and you'll see why what you say can't be true no matter how much you wish it to be: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TX1N3opw5eI
stop the fox spin ows is smarter than what you think
Fox spin? What do you mean?
by blaming both sides as equal you are falling for the republican trap the trap is making you not vote ows from start have said get money out of politics not get rid of goverment
I'm not a Republican and do not follow Fox news... I don't even have cable so I don't know the "spin". I will consider voting but not for either of the main parties.... Did you watch the video I posted?
thats my point by you not voting you are not helping ows or anything
Even though I am currently leaning towards not participating, I am open to the idea of voting, just not for a Republican or a Democrat.
thats the only choice there when people who say im not voting for left or right is a conservative you are not ows
I don't get that at all. And I wish we could stop it with all these labels, they're limiting and divisive.
do i offend you?
I don't think so, I'm just confused that you seem to be telling me that I'm not a supporter of OWS. ??
do you support tax the rich or end wars or get money out of politics?
Yes.
well you re ows
Okay, LOL I don't understand why that was ever in question.
because you blame both sides equally
Oh. Yes I do, pretty equally. :)
so how do you make a choice between the so called two evils?
Well, the last choice I made was for Obama but I was originally going to vote for McCain until Sarah Palin entered the picture. Historically, I made my choice by listening as closely as I could to both sides and try to vote for the candidate, not the party per se. But I now think that it's really less about the candidates and more about a system that is dysfunctional. That's why I'm hesitant to participate at all now.
Did you watch this? It's less than 45 minutes... very interesting points to consider here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TX1N3opw5eI
Here here!
Stop with the MSNBC spin.
both parties suffer corruption.
and what does that have to do with a convoy? did I miss the joke?
yeah what ows stands for this is no joke
OK... so, enlighten me. I'm thinking of the literal term convoy, you know, like, to escort or accompany, usually for protection. But that would imply there is a small subset of people out on the streets that need protecting, which is contrary to what I've been told about OWS - that it is everybody on the streets. Did you mean envoy? As in, a diplomatic agent, someone to go and try to talk down this standoff?