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Forum Post: smart government

Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 23, 2011, 2:14 a.m. EST by jamesvapor (221)
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if you new you were about to release information to the general public that would cause a panic. would you first stage a crap shoot idea like ocupy wall street. and use it for a model of who the high valued targets will be ?

what would your new system do ?

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[-] 1 points by alfi (469) 13 years ago

I put my name proudly, my REAL name attached to this, so BRING IT ON! Informed Direct Democracy, the process by which the average well informed real public opinion is brought to the attention of all, directly, is now obviously made possible by the internet. Just as we have secure online banking, shopping, chat, forums, libraries, dictionaries, and many other types of large online services and gathering places of opinions and facts, we can have direct voting on ISSUES that affect everyone, accompanied by direct FACTUAL open sourced information available to all so we can KNOW what the issues are and how the issues affect people. The idea that most people are incapable of making direct decisions in their communities, governments, and international affairs because of lack of abilities, information, and lack of a practical method, is no longer tolerable. Most people on Earth, are perfectly capable of making sound decisions about any political, environmental, social issue, IF the people are provided with factual free open sourced information about the issues. Most people have enough common sense and reasoning abilities to understand and reach very reasonable solutions to all the issues we, the people of Earth, face today on local levels as well as global levels. Having poor education, as the 1% have turned our public education system into their consumer-worker brainwashing, is not the same as being stupid; and being trusting, as most people are, is not the same as being gullible, and is a virtue, not a weakness to be exploited by the greedy 1%. Most people should trust each other to share control over society together, not give up our liberties to a system of greed made by the 1% that's causing famine, wars financial desperation, poor education, and the destruction of our planet, all for MORE PROFIT FOR THE 1%. The internet already offers EVERYTHING that is needed to have Informed Direct Democratic voting on issues everywhere. All that is needed is for people to organize a system. This system should be started by the 99% Occupy International Movement right NOW, while there is still time. In a few short years, the PEOPLE OF EARTH could be voting on local politics and local issues, and on issues that affect their country, and global issues that affect everyone. Let's not allow the 1% to make us out to be a petty and shallow and selfish and cowardly poor VS rich movement. It's not about taking down rich people, it's about taking down GREED itself; most rich people have the same capacity for being reasonable as most poor people do. A real economic recovery is not accomplished by restoring the health of the financial institutions, because they measure their recovery in profit; we need to eliminate GREED from the financial system, because too-big-to-fail corporations reporting record profits does not equal healthy fair economy. The people can come up with MUCH better solutions together online NOW! It's time to stop handing over our control and trusting our representatives to make policies that reflect the will of the people, which they never do. We now have a system of greed running all governments and societies on Earth. Having the ability to vote AND BE INFORMED WITH THE FACTS about the issues directly as a people can FORCE our corrupt and greedy leaders to make the will of the people a reality. After all, in a Democratic society, the government's job is simply to administrate the process by which the will of the people is formulated into a body of laws and policies, which MOST people agree with, and then protect the peoples' rights to have such a Democracy. The government is sort of the secretary and the bodyguard of the people, not the authority for the people to be forced to follow even when most people disagree with its policies and decisions. In a true Democracy, the PEOPLE are the authority of the government. MOST PEOPLE ARE REASONABLE, give most people the power of direct voting on issues, and we will have very REASONABLE policies, everywhere. Remember, the key is the FREE OPEN SOURCED INFORMATION (kind of like wikipedia) accompanying the voting sites on the internet. So when reporters come to ask protesters on the streets what we are protesting for, what do we want, what are your demands (as if we were robbing a bank or something) we can say: "WE THE PEOPLE OF EARTH DEMAND DIRECT INFORMED DEMOCRACY ENABLED BY OUR CURRENT COMMUNICATIONS TECHNOLOGY, WE DEMAND VOTING ON ISSUES THAT AFFECT PEOPLE DIRECTLY THROUGH THE INTERNET AND WE DEMAND THAT WE HAVE AN OFFICIAL OPEN SOURCED ONLINE LIBRARY OF FACTS ABOUT ALL THE ISSUES WE ARE VOTING FOR."

[-] 1 points by Markmad (323) 13 years ago

You’re right, BUT we steel remain slaves of; ideology, theology and currency. Most of the blame lies in our own ignorance. First, we need to free ourselves from fraudsters, misconceptions, hegemony and begin to think as one. It’s fundamental to understand what these three forms of control are doing to us. The concept of organizing the subjects as a network is worth trying, do you have any ideas how to design and organize these issues and information?

[-] 1 points by jamesvapor (221) 13 years ago

i would write a will for my family, a book for future generations incase they ever needed to open it. and a tattoo on my arm with name , rank , social security number so i could be counted. 60,000,000 , hmm ya . our government would never have a chemical agent ready to make that number of bodybags full. i mean that would require alot of planning , money , and power.

heck even i can figure out a way to make folks pay for the system by calling it a cure.

[-] 1 points by alfi (469) 13 years ago

what are you talking about?

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (6819) from St Louis, MO 13 years ago

And every comment is being read by the Feds. All IPs have been recorded and matched to physical addresses. Camps are already ready already. It's not like the list was just started or anything. It's just now it's a little longer.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 13 years ago

I'm afraid they can't do that

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read everything written

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (6819) from St Louis, MO 13 years ago

It was just a little harmless sarcasm, Matt, I think I was the first one to respond that day so there weren't any other comments on here yet. Basically saying "Big Brother is watching." And they can't do what, match IPs? Just curious, I can surf the web but I don't know squat about code.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 13 years ago

I make statements like that

people enjoy response