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Forum Post: Should We Have Demands?

Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 19, 2011, 3:50 p.m. EST by spritzler (12) from Boston, MA
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We need lots of discussion about whether or not to have demands. I'll start by saying why I don't think we should.

A demand (or a set of demands)constitutes the offer of a deal to the 1%: "If you grant these demands then we will be satisfied and stop bothering you." But until the 1% cease to rule our nation and stop enforcing the very class inequality that enables them to BE the 1%, I don't think we should be satisfied.

What we want is a new kind of society in which there is no 1% with concentrated wealth and power in their hands.

To get what we want requires removing the 1% from power and then creating a genuinely democratic and equal society. This is a revolution. The kind of society we can envision, and the way it can be achieved, are discussed in "Thinking about Revolution" at www.NewDemocracyWorld.org .

One does not demand a revolution; one makes a revolution. A demand is a message to the 1%. What we need, on the contrary, is to send a message to the 99%. The message to the 99% is that we have a revolutionary vision of a better world, a genuinely equal and democratic society, and that we invite them to join with us to discuss these aims and to build the revolutionary movement that it will take to achieve them.

Some say we should demand a huge public works project like the one FDR initiated in the Great Depression. But what caused FDR to help the unemployed this way was not that people demanded it, but rather that FDR feared that the working class was becoming increasingly revolutionary and convinced that capitalism held no decent future for them. Whatever changes the 1% might make to help ordinary people today will be made in response to the growth of an explicitly revolutionary movement far more than in response to a movement that merely makes some demand for a limited "realistic" reform. This is how it works in real life.

--John Spritzler, spritzler@comcast.net www.NewDemocracyWorld.org

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[-] 1 points by atki4564 (1259) from Lake Placid, FL 13 years ago

While I applaud your noble goals as defined in the "Thinking" document, you need to CONTROL a thing, like capitalism, before you can change it to what you cited, so let's start the war against Injustice by starting our own banks to double the income of the Bottom 99% of Workers, for many more people will come to your side when you are proactive (for “new” Business & Government solutions), instead of reactive (against “old” Business & Government solutions), which is why what we most immediately need is a comprehensive “new” strategy that implements all our various socioeconomic demands at the same time, regardless of party, and although I'm all in favor of taking down today's ineffective and inefficient Top 1% Management System of Business & Government, there's only one way to do it – by fighting bankers as bankers ourselves, and thus doubling our income from Bank Profits which are 40% of all Corporate Profits; that is, using a Focused Direct Democracy organized according to our current Occupations & Generations. Consequently, I have posted a 1-page Summary of the Strategically Weighted Policies, Organizational Operating Structures, and Tactical Investment Procedures necessary to do this at:

http://getsatisfaction.com/americanselect/topics/on_strategically_weighted_policies_organizational_operating_structures_tactical_investment_procedures-448eo

Join http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/StrategicInternationalSystems/ because we need 100,000 “support clicks” at AmericansElect.org in support of the above bank-focused platform.

Most importantly, remember, as cited in the first link, that as Bank Owner-Voters in your 1 of 48 "new" Business Investment Groups (or "new" Congressional Committees) you become the "new" Online Congress, and related “new” Businesses, REPLACING the "old" Congress, and related “old” Businesses, according to your current Occupations & Generations, called a Focused Direct Democracy.

Therefore, any Candidate (or Leader) therein, regardless of party, is a straw man, a puppet, a political opportunist, just like today; what's important is the STRATEGY – the sequence of steps – that the people organize themselves under in Military Internet Formation of their Individual Purchasing Power & Group Investment Power. In this, sequence is key, and if the correct mathematical sequence is followed then it results in doubling the income of the Bottom 99% of Workers from today's Bank Profits, which are 40% of all Corporate Profits.

Why? Because there are Natural Social Laws – in mathematical sequence – that are just like Natural Physical Laws, such as the Law of Gravity. You must follow those Natural Social Laws or the result will be Injustice, War, etc.

The FIRST step in Natural Social Law is to CONTROL the Banks as Bank Owner-Voters. If you do not, you will inevitably be UNJUSTLY EXPLOITED by the Top 1% Management System of Business & Government who have a Legitimate Profit Motive, just like you, to do so.

Consequently, you have no choice but to become Candidates (or Leaders) yourselves as Bank Owner-Voters according to your current Occupations & Generations.

So JOIN the 2nd link, and spread the word, so we can make 100,000 support clicks at AmericansElect.org when called for, at exactly the right time, by an e-mail from that group, in support of the above the bank-focused platform. If so, then you will see and feel how your goals can be accomplished within the above strategy as a “new” Candidate (or Leader) of your current Occupation & Generation.

[-] 1 points by Cybermerlin (1) from Westfield, NJ 13 years ago

No we should call for a new Constitutional Convention with few new definitions and tweeks to the old constitution like what makes a person and term limits and no more districts for starters.

[-] 1 points by jobs (26) 13 years ago

get republicans to vote yes on jobs bill - by any means necessary - POWER TO THE EOPLE!