Forum Post: Should I pay for your kids???
Posted 13 years ago on Nov. 12, 2011, 8:34 p.m. EST by reagan75
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I love our right of freedom to assembly and feel that OWS should be protected and not be evicted from any of there assembly points but I don't think I follow the logic of the movement. I am 31, married, have one child, my wife is a doctor, and I own a business, we aren't rich. We work constantly. I have noticed that those in our society that can least afford to have kids have more than they shoud ever have. Our current system rewards irresponsible behavior. As I stated we are ok financially but can't afford to have another kid so how can someone with no job manage to have five children and bitch when I don't want to pay for them. I think I like CHINA in regards to child birth.
I don't want to pay for a PRIVATE bank to be bailed out with PUBLIC money, either. But we weren't given a say in that, now, were we? NOPE. Our tax money was forcibly taken from us and given to PRIVATE banks so that They didn't collapse, which is EXACTLY what they should have done under the rules of our beloved capitalist system. Do you enjoy getting ripped off like that? I have a feeling you do. But I don't. In fact, it makes me homicidally angry, and I think it makes a lot of other people homicidally angry, too...
rewards? you think living in ghettos and getting food stamps is a reward?
do you think getting out of the ghettos would be a reward? Is the fact you are living in the ghetto a problem that can be attributed to your lack of work? If you can answer yes to either of these questions then I would recommend trying to find a job and if you can't find one invent one like the people that you are protesting against.
maybe gesto lacks works cause greedy helddown2? Naw. And the good doctor's husband is posting as the superior being when he can't even use the right "their"? Let's blame gesto for that too. helddown2 and reagan 75: PSSSST, the mirror always lies
if a person gets out of a ghetto.. you aren't paying for their children now are you?
they did not invent jobs.. they irresponsibly and greedily shifted jobs to other countries in order to satisfy that greed.
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Getting a job is not a get out of poverty card.
The basics that should be provided for are:
These are the minimums I want from the new government
what about paying for the bombs the US drops?
there assembly? shoud ever? Yea let's all not pay, then the world will be all fixed.
Those children that were created by irresponsible people may not become irresponsible themselves if they have a decent education. If those children are to become the police officers, nurses, electricians, construction workers, and all around infrastructure holding a society together tomorrow, then you and I better make damn sure they're educated today. In a theoretical sense, public education is the easiest thing to justify.
It is crazy that we live in a society where people actually need to choose between surviving or having children. It's utter madness.
It is the adherance to superstician on our school boards, and the denial of science, and the demonization of birth control by people who know better.
Yes, you should pay for them. Children need to be raised by a village. It is the responsibility of everyone to pay for children, regardless of who are their biological parents.
The village isn't providing. You complain about the 1% but they pay the majority of taxes. I am not the 1% but I don't the burden of raising your child should rest on society. That is why there is birth control. If you can't afford a car, a rental unti, then you can't afford a child. That burden should not be shifted to the rest of society.
How much money will you send me? My oldest is starting college next September.
College should be free, along with housing and food. Everyone should pay to educate our children. They should be taught to respect our leaders and that working for the state in the apex of most careers.
So how much higher do you want taxes to be to make college free? Does that include masters degrees and doctorates? Families with kids pay more then couples or single people with no kids?
Everybody who makes $100,000.00 a year should be paying at least 50% in taxes. We need to provide for the less fortunate
So what is the incentive for anyone to make more then $100k a year if they only end up with $50k after your tax system is in place?
I bet you don't make a $100k a year or anything close to that amount.
What I make is not important, what is important is that all people are cared for. Only the state can do that.
Your position is more agreeable if you are part of the group paying the 50% tax. Otherwise you come across as a leech.
You talk about having children as if you were purchasing something.
It isn't a purchase but it is a lifelong investment if you are responsible. I don't follow the theory that I should take on the extra burden of the irresponsible that have had more children then they can afford.
Well children are kinda like soylent green, you see. They're people!
That's a lot of weirdness.
As to the post title? Yes!
Are you talking about ending government mandated and owned education? I'm for it.
Really, you like the way China enforces the one child policy?
Forced abortions?
At least the other banality of evil guy backed down when I asked that, let's see if you will.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nonLNmm_NLs
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The sins of the parents are often payed for by the rest of society. I don't care if you like me I am stating a fact. The majority of people with large families can't afford them and rely on government assistance and they contribute absouletly nothing to society.
You can't afford another because your household income has allowed you to finance more than children will allow. So... And yes, I DO want you to pay for my kids. My oldest is on her second Masters and owes 70 grand... and my youngest has a 300K mortgage and two cars loans. We take Master Card.
Why is your oldest on their 2 masters. What was wrong with the first. Let me guess it is a literature major and since they can't get a job the rest of society should pay for their education. Give me a break. I think the biggest problem your kids have was not being taught to live below their means.
We also take AmEx.
I'm glad that you find it humerous that you have taught your kids to live beyond their means then expect someone that lives responsibly to help them out. I'm glad you take Amex, discover, master and visa but not resposiblity.
haha.....
Your humor is great, but is also why you will probably never inspire your kid with two masters to get ahead. It is easier to place blame than accept responsibilty. If you accept responsiblity then you also have to accept failure and I am pretty sure that is something you aren't willing to accept and thus why you are camped out in a park, and not actually doing anything to change the current system other than asking for some one else to do something different
You need to get your mind outa the damn park. How's that for inspiration?
How 'bout we print the money, loan to the feds, they send it to me, and you make a payment? You know, as in:
Brother can you spare a dime?
Second Masters? 300k Mortgage...it is people like your kids that are the problem
America the beautiful. You got a choice, you can either love it or leave it.. but there ain't much point lying around the Ghetto complaining about it, now is there?
Let me put this anther way, you gotta keep the faith.
You are correct,Sir.