Forum Post: Seeking clarification
Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 25, 2011, 12:19 a.m. EST by DHFabian
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I'm trying to find out just what this movement is about. When I heard it referred to as the "99%," I assumed it meant all of the non-rich. Yet I've heard it redefined as being only about the more fortunate, those who are still the "working middle class." MSNBC (and most especially, Ed Schultz) has gone to some lengths to stress that this is only about the middle class, quite pointedly excluding the poor. Since NAFTA, the US has exported some 28 million jobs, at the same time that it shredded the social safety net, but there is no call for restoring the entitlement to poverty relief. No talk about the survival of those who have already been pushed out of our economic system, with no means of self-support. So, is this about 99% of the middle class? When you exclude the very poor, or restrict the discussion to the calls for job creation (as we've been doing for decades), that shrinks the movement considerably.
Ah, Ed and Norman Goldman...great men!
they are angry and they are uninformed which is why it took this long for them to get angry. America is a giant nursery class and Americans want to hear fairy tales. They are arrogant and don't want to know they are in a trance. Americans are a condescending arrogant group of prejudiced people who refuse to know why they are being screwed by globalization. To refuse to look at the explosions of the WTC is as ignorant as any people can get.
The biggest themes that have come out of the movement in my opinion are this:
a) We don't want corporate money to influence elections.
and
b) We don't want to be put in a position again to have to bailout anyone. Tight controls on the bankers.
That's it. The rest will fall in line once you get the money out of politics and reign in wall st.
OWS is about many of the things listed in the results of this survey http://www.owssurvey.org/
As far as people are concerned, I absolutely include the poor in the movement. I don't include the corporate class that feels like they own the rest of us.
This survey is actually a very bad idea considering how easy it is to skew the results online.
If the results are important, and I believe they are, then perhaps our movement should sponser our own poll by contacting supporters to determine the primary goals of the movement.
I agree that the result are easy to skew, but I think that the current percentages and common sense, show that there are two primary themes of the movement. reduce wealth inequality, and reduce government corruptions from the influence of big businesses.
I agree
the excess labor in the US is just not needed
but those left out of jobs should not have to suffer for that
Automation brings wonders. A thresher can do the work of a score of serfs. I don't need them anymore. Why share? They did none of the work.
OWS, to me, is about a discussion of how the top 1% in this country, has manipulated our government through lobbying efforts. What we are seeing now is only symptomatic of these actions and until our leaders begin to listen to the people the core issue will persist.
It involves the whole 99% I don't know what Ed Shultz was talking about.
SCREWED AGAIN exposes big shots
I keep my readers informed and I erase nothing. My readers can go back to check every story because they are all based on facts and evidence that is absolutely certain. I can see the propaganda that is used by the media to cover-up the big shots when they are committing serious crimes especially 9/11 and Wall Street fraud.
The Casey Anthony trial was intentionally misrepresented by one media lie after the next while the government was intentionally trying to murder Casey Anthony after the prosecution and cops knew that George Anthony molested Casey since she was an 8 year old girl, but they have refused to prosecute George Anthony. Is that what you want the government to do? Do you want to be misled by the main stream media so you can watch innocent people be murdered by the government.
All the Republican presidential candidates and Obama are screwballs and idiots but the "political correct" trance protects all of them. Jon Stewart and Steven Colbert make fun and make jokes for their audience but they fail to take their stupidity serious. Electing another screwball president of the USA would be a disaster.
Americans want to be in a nursery class where they hear fairy tales. Americans refuse to deal with the truth. Michael Moore criticizes 9/11 but then states he doesn't want to believe that our government would purposely create 9/11. It doesn't matter what Michael Moore wants, it matters what happened. His intentions are bizarre but his audience wants to be deceived. I watched him on a 3 hour Book-TV show that allowed him to peddle his book. In a prior Book-TV event he answered a man in the audience by covering up for Bush in the 9/11 case. This is the service that SCREWED AGAIN provides my readers. see my blog http://overthecoals.blogspot.com/