Forum Post: Scott Olsen a true hero....
Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 28, 2011, 9:43 a.m. EST by blkflg
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Funny how most of the OWS'ers weren't singing his praises when he was doing two tours in Iraq. The OWS crowd is full of worthless hypocrites!
How would we sing his praises when we hadn't ... y'know ... actually heard of him?
You're weird.
My point...he was just a soldier (that I doubt most of OWS supports) protecting America in a war that (that I doubt most of OWS supports).
I would amend your statement that MOST Americans didn't support entering or staying in.
There is a difference between supporting the men and women of the military and supporting the goals of the military industrial complex. These men and women have no choice what war they fight. They are serving the will of the leaders of this country.
Supporting one is not the same as supporting the other.
Anyhow, I ask you this -- what part of America were we "protecting" in a hostile takeover of two countries? Two countries that have no ability to launch an offensive campaign against the US.
They do have a choice....don't join. It's their job to go fight where they are told to go fight. They signed up for it.
That's a truly foolish way of interpreting what I said.
Foolish but true.
It's true if you decide to read what I've written through an odd filter and then comment on an extraneous piece of fact.
It ignores the entirety of the post and singles out some nugget to derail the discussion.
The point is - regardless of their desire to be in any war or not - supporting the safety and success of our fighting men and women is NOT the same as supporting the cause they are fighting for. The end result of the support may be the same, but the reason for the support is quite different.
So u support their "success" in battle but not the cause of their fight. So u hope they kill and win the war but u don't support the war....R u high?
As I stated - I support the troops well-being and their safety both when they are active and inactive.
If at the end of the day, supporting this means that I am supporting a successful campaign then I will. But not because I agree with the campaign - but because it supports the ultimate goal of removing these people from the theater of war.
My reasons for supporting success are not propaganda related. I did not support the ideas behind invading Iraq or WMDs. There were worse dictators than Saddam and there were no links to Al Queda. I did not support bombing mountains in a fruitless attempt to get Bin Laden.
I did support the safety of all of our military men and women while they executed the campaign. I hoped for a swift end and resolution to the conflict.
Carpet bombing....hell yeah!
You have no clue what anyone here supports. Your mind creates its own straw men and then you come here and knock them down.
See how fast this thread died....tons of support for our soldiers.....tons.
My nephew fought in Afghanistan. I'll leave it at that.
I cannot speak for all of OWS, but I personally have always supported our soldiers. Indeed, I supported them so much that I didn't want them to get killed looking for imaginary WMDs that weren't actually there. However, I could not have specifically sung the praises of Scott Olsen, 'cos of not having heard his name.
So now that u do know who he is, u wanna use him as a reason to further a dying hippie movement...nice.
Translated from troll to English: now that I do know who he is, I admire his courage.
And I suppose if his injuries do serve to further the movement that he is part of, then he will feel that his courage was not altogether in vain.
How it is at OWS? Warm and toasty here in my house....mmmmmm....gonna crawl back in bed now.
Is that the same bed from which you "supported the troops" while Scott Olsen was serving his country?
I guess that's why veterans get more respect than you and your teddy-bear.
Yes it is Dalton....it's warm....so very warm...OWS will be back in their beds soon too...brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr....chilly at OWS I bet. Veterans should get more respect than me, they should get more respect than OWS as well and not used as a propaganda tool. If OWS respected Veterans, then OWS wouldn't use Scott's incident as a rally cry, instead they should help him financially to help cover his medical costs and not use him. When OWS gives up and heads in for the winter, please think of me when you turn on your electric "protest" blanket....nighty. night....Dalton.
What about veterans who are part of OWS? Should they get more respect than themselves?
Do you suppose he'll object to being a "rallying cry" for the cause that he believes in? Do you suppose he'll think that the"incident" should have been hushed up so that you wouldn't have to whine about it?
Why "instead"? Iraq Veterans Against The War have set up a Scott Olsen Support Fund. It is actually possible to donate to this and to say that he shouldn't have been shot in the first place. You too could show your respect for veterans by doing one or the other, or both.
Well done Dalton.....WOW what a protest.....you are the reason OWS is still alive....stand tall and strong....don't run if they start shooting....die for the cause...hahahahahaha
Most OWSers want to bring the troops home. THAT is how you support our troops, by keeping them alive and not having them fight wars against imaginary things.
Best of all he is from Wisconsin. The 1% are responsible for his injuries.
Best of all he is from Wisconsin. The 1% are responsible for his injuries.