Forum Post: Right wing trolls=ignorant bigoted hypocrites
Posted 12 years ago on March 11, 2012, 12:37 p.m. EST by EndGluttony
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A quick perusal of this forum will make it clear to any educated person that the right wing trolls who spend their time here spewing hate and whining about all of their "hard-earned" money being taken away and handed out to others are ignorant and, for the most part, complete hypocrites. Every time you see the wrong your/you're used it will be a right wing troll. Their go-to comeback is a gay slur, because in their world it's insulting to be accused of being gay. They call Obama a mulatto and worse, I've made a habit of asking these greedy selfish pigs what they do for a living and many of them (toonces, Takecareofyourself) refuse to answer, because the answer would expose their hypocrisy. These trolls think they should be able to benefit from all of the opportunities afforded to them by being born in this country, they should be able to exploit all of the luxuries they take for granted, but they should not have to contribute or give back. They hate America and Democracy, they don't care if our school system is in a shambles or our infrastructure is crumbling, they don't care if the rest of the industrialized world is leaving us behind, they only care about themselves and their hatred and bigotry. Use this post to expose the trolls. Copy and paste their poor grammar, hate and bigotry here. Ask them what "hard work" they do to "earn" their money. Call them out.
The most disturbing thing about the far right is their seeming willingness to watch the country crumble just to somehow prove they were "right." Their belief in superstition and fairy tales doesn't help, they think they're going to some happy place in the sky after they mercifully croak. These far right greedbots are actually rooting for the President AND the country to fail, they are the opposite of patriots, they don't believe in America in any way shape or form they only believe in themselves and their tiny world view. It's distressing.
Toonces and Takecareofyourself, two right wing trolls who come here to whine about how we want to take away their "hard-earned" money but they both refuse to reveal HOW they "earn" their money. Why would they refuse to admit that? They are completely anonymous here. My guess is that admitting to how exactly they "earn" their money would be to undermine their argument, i.e. HYPOCRITES.
Our real adversaries are the 1% corporate leaders who dominate our political economy and the corporate state, many of whom are considerably more genteel than the "trolls" that folks find so troublesome. "Trolls" are undoubtedly a sad and lonely distraction and we should not let them disturb us or distract us from our central grievances. Everybody matters.
They hate America and Democracy, they don't care if our school system is in a shambles or our infrastructure is crumbling,
Well, they circle it like vultures to see if there is some way that they can profit off of it.
The selfishness and greed they embody and support will be the downfall of this nation unless the working people finally figure it out and put a stop the looting of the economy.
It has been and I agree.
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I'd say amazing clarity but it's really only too easy to see isn't it? For folks who claim to (LOVE) America, they sure spend an awful lot of time searching for things to hate don't they? Even this thread will attract them to spew some hateful rant, but you see...THEY CAN'T HELP IT! What most of them...(love)...is everything that resembles what they see in the mirror. Anything else is....evil, or bad, or wrong.
What's happening, (at least in their minds), is exactly what their grandfathers told them was going to happen and it's just too much for them to grapple with. What's true, is that they are going to receive exactly what they're looking for; an America that doesn't agree with anything they believe in
Karma....what a bitch!
What do they believe in? As far as I can tell their "beliefs" revolve solely around themselves and what they deem best for them, they do not care about anyone else or about the country as a whole.
Exactly! They believe only in themselves and they're becoming more exposed everyday! But they're dying off, or at least becoming outnumbered. I guess I'd be a little upset too if I were being shown my true colors and didn't like the looks of them....lol.
To say that people only care about themselves is simply to define what the sleeping giant of the American working class is all about and how that sleep actually works. What is significant about OWS is not a change in attitude so much as it is a change in behavior, a willingness of people to step away from their computer screens, go out into the streets and meet each other. To the extent that many people who contribute to this forum and claim to "support" OWS have yet to do that I personally see little difference between them and the "trolls" about which they complain, Everybody matters,
No, what people need is knowledge and motivation, whatever way they get it. If the working people truly knew and understood, they'd want change. Not sure how a drum circle will make that happen.
Wanting change and actually acting to try and make change, however misdirected that activity might be, are two entirely different things. I personally find all the various suggestions made on this forum which claim to be in support of OWS but reflect no real knowledge or understanding of it to be as frustrating as many people find the dubious "contributions" of so-called "trolls." Everybody matters, but neither, in my estimation, and it is only my personal opinion, is making any meaningful contribution to change.
To me a skeptic or even a hostile person who takes the trouble to drop by an occupation is making a far greater contribution to the movement than any erstwhile "supporter" who has never been to a GA or occupaition, even including those who have contributed to the movement financially, but again that is only my personal opinion and it is framed within the belief that everybody matters even people who support the movement but are not really active in it and even people who are hostile to the movement.
As for drum circles, most of the people I know who are into drum circles tend to take the position that drum circles ARE the revolution. I don't agree with that assessment, but it is also the case that noisy as they are, they are also not a particularly significant political tendency within the movement, But if everybody matters, so do people committed to drum circles.
The movement should want change to happen by any means necessary and for people to get involved in any way they see fit, why be judgmental and cynical about it?
I'm not judgemental or cynical about anyone or anything, including "trolls," but I do think it is useful to draw a distinction between someone who says they "support" OWS and an actual OWS activist. IMHO it is activism as a fact of life that will make change not one's state of mind.
It is often remarked on this forum that people have families and full time jobs and don't have the time to be active in OWS. Personally I don't buy that, but I'm not judgemental about it either. I suspect that 95% of the population lives within commuting distance of a local general assembly and most general assemblies that are not connected to an encampment meet on a weekly basis or less. It is true that church attendence and activity in other voluntary associations is way down in the United States, That said, millions of people with full time jobs and more attend church on at least a weekly basis and engage in other voluntary activities.
But more and more people are unused to this sort of social engagement and like anything else an unused behavior atrophies and people literally forget how to do it. But one of the most significant aspects of OWS is that people got up from their computer screens, went outside and met each other.
Nicely said.
Hear, hear! Well stated Sir.
I believe most of them are children, pretending to be adults.
Their reliance on dubious web sites for proof is a dead giveaway.
Bot use is another giveaway, as they get little support for their repetitious ideology.
Scriptkiddies on Redbull.
In the end it's pathetic that they would spend their time trying to disrupt this forum, but it is very interesting to see their true colors when they can post anonymous hate. And I find it hilarious that even though they are completely anonymous they usually refuse to admit to what "hard work" they do to "earn" their precious dollars. Because they are full of shit, just greedy selfish whiners, like that kid on the playground dripping snot screaming "MINE MINE MINE." Unbelievable that their side hollars patriotism when they hate the country and hate Democracy and don't want to contribute in any way, they exist like parasites in a nation that needs people to contribute as a whole.
Their thinking is best described as feckless.
Unformed and feckless.
You may be the most intelligent, highly educated, clear thinking, compassionate person I've ever seen on this site! Keep up the good work! I'm sure we can learn a lot from you!!
Great counter-argument.
Troll's are the bottom feeders of the greedy corrupt. They have no allegiance. Except to themselves. They will attack anyone and everyone regardless of race creed color political affiliation gay straight anyone who stands in their way in the way of corruption.
Adjustment to the above Post - "ALL TROLLS" are against humanity they are supporters of corruption.
Lets lose the labels where we can, and attack Hate and greed and corruption as what they are - plainly wrong and bad for everyone.
Labels are divisive.
We need to support unity in common cause.
The actions of the corrupt should always be the issue and the target. Not labels.
I hate the labels too but there is a phenomena, call it the right wing just to quantify it and describe it, and the trolls are right wing hatemongers, for the most part.
You don't seem to be shy about using labels , in fact you seem to have an affinity for calling people names and labeling their statements and their personal attributes (or I guess more like their faults) - if any one doesn't toll the Endgulttony line they are a troll (among other choice labels)
Oh boy, you dressed me down.
Trolls are hate mongers - PERIOD.
They freely abuse all sides.
This is their tactic - sow divisiveness. Make unity impossible.
We fight - THEY WIN.
We go after common cause without labels - we then are fighting an issue a practice a policy - WE WIN.
A person who sides with OWS and posts on this forum is not a troll, they are contributing to the discussion, but a person who hates OWS and comes here to express that is only here for that reason, to disrupt and divide and deride. I disagree with your premise.
That is your right.
In my book:
An attacker is an attacker. ( you do not know their belief you do not know their true allegiance ) You only have a statement of where they would like the credit to go.
Have you seen RushForPres' posts? You want unity with him? You think he matters? His ilk are a cancer on this country. I want nothing to do with tea party racists and zealots. Those hateful people will never be holding our hands singing Kumbaya.
RushForPres = Troll
Trolls are hate mongers - PERIOD.
They freely abuse all sides.
This is their tactic - sow divisiveness. Make unity impossible.
We fight - THEY WIN.
We go after common cause without labels - we then are fighting an issue a practice a policy - WE WIN.
The only labels we should use are true ones:
Hater
POS
Troll
corrupt
greedy
divisive
bottom feeder
etc.
Just because a party is unfortunate to be infested with trolls or the greedy or the corrupt or haters is not a reason to list all as such. Label the individual properly and you don't insult the innocent you may even get them to take a look and agree with you.
Lets work together people support the movements against corruption and greed.
Yeah ok, but........"CORRUPT" is a label right?
Nope.
It is a state of being. Actions and motives identify.
For the "good of All" or "not at All".
Corruption does not support good for All.
So calling someone who's corrupt, "corrupt" is ok, but calling someone who's a racist a racist is labeling?
Nope if that is what they are then that is what they are - it is an obvious thing when they present the actions that identify. I am talking about all of this rightwing leftwing centrist progressive liberal socialist nonsense.
That is labeling that divides. How a person characterizes their thinking does not go to their belief in good and evil. What they support will characterize an individual more clearly. Then it's a matter of is it an informed support or a blind one. This is where discussion comes in - in finding and discussing merit or the lack thereof.
I see what you're saying and I guess I agree with you for the most part. It does take us down a long and winding road to blurriness when we generalize or name-call.
Find the heart of a matter.
That is the truth to consider.
Does it help? Who? How? Why?
Does it hurt? Who? How? Why?
The rest can all be considered distraction. More or less.