Forum Post: Return to our Lord Jesus Christ
Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 16, 2011, 6:28 a.m. EST by IronKnuckle
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Give yourself to Jesus, whose patience is great and love, steady. The Lord is willing that all should be saved, that none should perish.
Save yourself from this darkness, FROM THIS. Who are these people who confuse America's success with their own ability ans capability. Do these realize they protest the greatest nation there ever was.
Give yourself to Christ. And give credit where it is due, to the Most High God.
Im a taoist, my wife is a pagan. But thanks anyway..
Religion has no place on the OWS forum---but ethics and empathy do (neither of which is very evident in this thread)
Posts like this DIVIDE US. I'm quite religious myself, but this doesn't offer up any practical issues or solutions. Don't forget that all religions have an ugly history of being run by the elite. Let there be no compulsion in religion, and keep it out of politics.
I am an atheist and I agree with you 100%
Me too ! you'r not alone bro' !
In the words of Jello Biafra, "God must be dead if you're alive."
Jesus drove the money changers from the holy temple. He set a powerful example there. He didn't bargain with them, the didn't allow for a gentle transition to phase out usury, He just turned the place upside down.
BTW - this post has been removed twice already, did I say something that offended someone? I did not mean to. I'm just stating that the Holy Bible and especially Jesus Christ offer some great guidelines.
If this post gets removed for the third time, I'll know it's either some kind of censoring or a ban on bloody foreigners (I'm Dutch). I hope it's the second option.
What does this have to do with anything?
Jesus drove the money changers from the holy temple. He set a powerful example there. He didn't bargain with them, the didn't allow for a gentle transition to phase out usury, He just turned the place upside down.
Jesus drove the money changers from the holy temple. He set a powerful example there. He didn't bargain with them, the didn't allow for a gentle transition to phase out usury, He just turned the place upside down.
really?
It is possible to be a Christian and a liberal. That might make someone's head explode, but it's the truth.
Seriously? The whole point the New Testament makes with regard to Jesus's message is that it matters not who you are or what you have done, only that you wish for something better for those around you. The whole point of OWS is to deal with institutions that have all the ethics of the moneychangers in the temple. By all officially recognized standards Jesus was either a nobody or a dangerous lunatic, and yet his message of universal love and willingness to offer real temporal change in the places where it counted made enough of an impression that millions accept him as the son of God.
Simply put, OWS is about the idea that there must be something more, something better than our current system. The basic idea of this movement is that we want to effect positive temporal change over the long term for the ordinary man. A groundswell like this, even if it's far from being able to effect concrete policy changes, is the first step in producing a better America.
To those who question our patriotism, I say that's ridiculous. True love of country is not about blindly supporting whatever direction it decides to go in, but rather a willingness to guide it in the right direction and help it turn itself around when it makes mistakes. Patriotism is not about accepting that all individual decisions made by our government or our private sector are right, but rather that the government has the capacity to do what's best for its people and that failures to do so should be responded to with criticism and corrective efforts rather than treason.
What is his credit score?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sD9f0XU_S78&feature=feedf
watch this
This will help you realize that 3 world religions are complete BS.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sD9f0XU_S78&feature=feedf
take off the tin foil hat..
Religions were always on the side of ruling classes.
My name never was Jesus, and I am already here...
Jesus is on our side broseph
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Jesus never existed. It is an Italian scam. Check your history there was no historical Jesus.
You worship BS like a child believing fairy stories! You are useless & antihuman!
Being the religious person in the room, let me assure that you must change and you must embrace Christ to have a chance to step foot in heaven.
You are a brainwashed idiot. Clear your mind there was no Jesus. Jesus is a plagiarized story from the ancient Egyptians and others cultures.
You must change.
Then why does the History channel and national geographic do programs on him if he was not real.
You are so brain washed you can't change. You are Jesus Zombie. Give your brain to someone who can use it.
it is possible to provide food, shelter and health to everyone in the USA
Um I don't know what part of the bible it says that the greatest nation ever is the USA we have only been a country for a tiny fraction of history? What makes us great??
Regardless of age, citizens can't be bashing their own country.
Uh how do you think the US STARTED???? Because we were happy with England. U are dumb
The Framers of this country always stood for so much more than these Occupy Wall Street protesters. They stood for the right of citizens to praise our Lord Jesus Christ.
The protesters are the most spoiled malcontents in the history of human civilization. Even the word "occupy," a war term used to denote the U.S. occupation of Iraq, denotes their OBVIOUS hostility towards normal people.
No they fought for representation for taxation. The bill of rights was formed after. And they passed freedom of religion. Not freedom of Christianity. Hey Christian or not Christian When u get laid off from your job and lose your house. Ask yourself..... Where does it say in the bible....not to question govt?? Don't worry iv heard that sermon in church and I debunked it to my pastor really quick. It is blasphemy to use the bible for political gain
You know... From what I understood Jesus was kind of a rebel of his time. Calling people brood of vipers and hypocrites and attempting to bring down the entire religious system of the time, causing disruption in Jerusalem and traveling to many cities to gather followers... He was quite the rebel.
Don't remember Jesus endorsing or condemning the United States.
I do remember him preaching compassion for those less fortunate and having the unbelievable courage to stand up against injustice shown to them.
So my question to you is: It cost him his life for standing against injustice & intolerance. What are you prepared to do?
bythepeople, Jesus did not defend homosexuals in case that is where you are going with "intolerance." Compassion for sinners is not nearly the same as endorsing their sins. We feel compassion for the sinner but what they have done is not OK. Quite the contrary.
You speak of compassion for this misfortunate in one sentence while you threaten to steal from the rich in the next. This is not courage. It is injustice.
Nor did he condemn or judge them. He loved them as he did all. No prejudice, no bias, no bigotry. You, know, the whole "without sin first stone" thing? Or did you miss that part?
However, the new totalitarian Christian ideals where you, a mere mortal, knows what's best for all is BS. You interpret his teachings to be what you want it to be, instead following what it is. Just like this thread.
I never threaten to steal from anyone. MOF, most of these protestors are not about stealing anything. It's about fairness is utilizing the limited resources of this planet for benefit of all, not just a few.
Exactly, every word Christ said MUST be implemented, especially given the hidden socioeconomic mathematics underlying his parables (or riddles). As such, many more people will come to your side when you are proactive (for “new” Business & Government solutions), instead of reactive (against “old” Business & Government solutions), which is why what we most immediately need is a comprehensive “new” strategy that implements all our various socioeconomic demands at the same time, regardless of party, and although I'm all in favor of taking down today's ineffective and inefficient Top 10% Management System of Business & Government, there's only one way to do it – by fighting bankers as bankers ourselves; that is, using a Focused Direct Democracy organized according to our current Occupations & Generations. Consequently, I have posted a 1-page Summary of the Strategically Weighted Policies, Organizational Operating Structures, and Tactical Investment Procedures necessary to do this at:
http://getsatisfaction.com/americanselect/topics/on_strategic_legal_policy_organizational_operational_structures_tactical_investment_procedures
Join
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/StrategicInternationalSystems/
because we need 100,000 “support clicks” at AmericansElect.org to support a Presidential Candidate -- such as any given political opportunist you'd like to draft -- in support of the above bank-focused platform.
Most importantly, remember, as cited in the first link, that as Bank Owner-Voters in your 1 of 48 "new" Business Investment Groups (or "new" Congressional Committees) you become the "new" Congress replacing the "old" Congress according to your current Occupation & Generation, called a Focused Direct Democracy.
Therefore, any Candidate (or Leader) therein, regardless of party, is a straw man, a puppet; it's the STRATEGY – the sequence of steps – that the people organize themselves under, in Military Internet Formation of their Individual Purchasing & Group Investment Power, that's important. In this, sequence is key.
Why? Because there are Natural Social Laws – in mathematical sequence – that are just like Natural Physical Laws, such as the Law of Gravity. You must follow those Natural Social Laws or the result will be Injustice, War, etc.
The FIRST step in Natural Social Law is to CONTROL the Banks as Bank Owner-Voters. If you do not, you will inevitably be UNJUSTLY EXPLOITED by the Top 10% Management Group of Business & Government who have a Legitimate Profit Motive, just like you, to do so.
Consequently, you have no choice but to become Candidates (or Leaders) yourselves as Bank Owner-Voters according to your current Occupation & Generation.
So please JOIN the 2nd link so we can make our support clicks at AmericansElect.org when called for, at exactly the right time, by an e-mail from that group, in support of the above the bank-focused platform. If so, then you will see and feel how your goals can be accomplished within the above strategy as a “new” Candidate (or Leader) of your current Occupation & Generation.
Drop the subject, ignore this dude
What if I choose not to believe in your invisible sky daddy, as my Constitutional right that is granted me by this great nation?
I think the appropriate answer is that God says, warns, that He is a Jealous God.
See me as a Utopian dreamer. See me as an ideological schemer,
As I search for the truth, and not just the redeemer.
My eyes are not special, nor is my message;
World Peace is the end goal, it's not just a fetish.
Whether you fiend for my rhymes, or to nickle and dime,
My love it will grow if you give it the time.
Now please drop all the hate, and start learning to love;
Now stop quoting your bible, as we all look above.
We are all one, all one in the same;
This economic system it is just a game.
Peace, Love, and Unity is what I will share;
Though most of my readers they don't really care.
I found Jesus passed out drunk on my couch this morning.(puke everywhere) Why does my cousin drink so much?
I'm not a sheep you know... Stop your proselytism.
My friend. I am a Christian and runnning the post: What would Jesus say about OccupyWallSt.
To part of your comment I can wholeheartly say AMEN, brother. To the part how you describe the USA I cannot say AMEN. I am not a US citizen and was not raised there either. I have lived there for over 5 years and my wife is American. This way I know about the US. How can a nation with aorund 50.000.000 abortions, millions of adulteries, excessive greed, and all kinds of other vices be the greatest nation of the world. The homicide rate of the USA is for instance 20 times higher than in my country. So by what measure do you judge? Please explain that in the light of the Bible?
This will help you realize Christianity is a BIG mistake and misinterpretation of past stories and sciences.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sD9f0XU_S78&feature=feedf
Over 500 people have seen Jesus, we have the account of time witnesses and the hundereds of prophecies have been fullfilled as we can verify now. It has spread all over the world and onece we die everyone will that Jesus Christ will be judge. Please take your time read the Bible from beginning to end and you will see the truth if you want to, what I hope.
There is no HISTORICAL ACCOUNT of Jesus. IT IS A FACT! The latest one has been proved to be a FORGERY. Stick that in your bible and eat it with your fake god, cannibal religions are so lame.
Your stat on the murder rate isn't accurate and, as delicately as I can put this, I have read on the FBI's public website that something close to eighty (80) percent of murders are committed by a specific group of people. As for the rest of these problems, doesn't that support the idea that the people must return to Christ?
I agree that you need Christ, and that is why you cannot be the greatest of the countries. Because a righteous person or a group of righteous people do not need Jesus. Only sinners need Jesus. And what is great about being a group of sinners.
i didn't know this was church?!?!?! damn, fooled again.
good that you have faith in something, bad that you feel the need to shove it down peoples throats. there are many different gods in this world that are good and beneficial to mankind. religion, on the other hand, can build walls and destroy civilizations. keep your faith to yourself here. this is worldwide. no need to exclude based on religion
What does it say in the ten commandments that secular people fail to notice? God says "I am a jealous God." He is greatly patient with people. But there is only one God, and He expects men to love Him just as He deserves.
I don't think atheists believe in the ten commandments. I don't think you believe that people don't believe. That is probably the weirdest thing iv ever said. Thanks I'm now stupid.
All good things come from God.
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