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Forum Post: Reality Check!

Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 31, 2011, 10:16 a.m. EST by CTabc123 (0)
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Seems as though a lot of you are very uneducated on the facts. ---

"banks sold securities they knew were high-risk"

Bonds and securities were sold as low risk because the gov't (fannie and freddie) fully-backed them, and explicitly did so WITHOUT any documentation. Meaning that people just lied about their income and were able to get loans they otherwise shouldnt have been able to get. The gov't said documentation was not needed, if the gov't is backing it then there is basically no reason to do any due diligence...

"banks were just given money" Many of you also seem to think that the banks just took all this money in bailouts (aka TARP) for free and never gave it back. In REALITY, many banks were forced to take the money and not only did they pay upwards of 9% on the loans but the gov't also got equity ownership in the banks. ALL TARP money has essentially been repaid and the gov't actually made a bunch of money on the deal (interest payments and capital gains)

It may be easier to just blame the banks, which do deserve some, but the real fault lies from main st to wall st. What about the average person who took a loan and bought a second house they KNEW they should not be able to afford? "no big deal... I'll just refinance with the new teaser rate in 5-years.. it'll be all okay"

There are jobs out there but it seems that most of these protesters feel over entitled and think that certain jobs are "beneath" them. If you are without work and need money you have to lower your job standards before going and asking the gov't and the productive and successful to support you while you protest against them.

http://jobsearch.nytimes.monster.com/jobs/?where=New__2dYork__2dCity__2c__2dNY&rad=75&sort=dt&x=52&y=10

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[-] 1 points by cogitabvndvs (1) 13 years ago

Yes, let's all surrender to the productive and successful leaders of this "quiet coup". http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2009/05/the-quiet-coup/7364/

[-] 1 points by jk1234 (257) 13 years ago

Right? Banks FORCED to take money - good one.

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=196348

[-] 1 points by CTabc123 (0) 13 years ago

its fairly well known. Many strong banks, JPM GS, were forced to take the money so that other banks, ie the ones that needed the capital, did not look as weak.

[-] 1 points by jk1234 (257) 13 years ago

document it, forward it to William Black, and get back to me

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[-] 0 points by RichardGates (1529) 13 years ago

your idea of "beneath" someone needs a tiny caveat. nobody is going to take a job that won't pay their bills. you guys have gotten used to having an imported work force you can exploit because they take that money home and live like kings. well your buddies just stuck the last nail in that coffin. soon you will be stuck with a illegitimate work force, and you are going to have to pay the real cost of doing business.

[-] 1 points by CTabc123 (0) 13 years ago

take a job outside of the city, where cost of living is lower. Or do you not want to move out of Brooklyn?

[-] 1 points by CTabc123 (0) 13 years ago

how so? which assumption (s)?

[-] 0 points by RichardGates (1529) 13 years ago

i live in florida jack ass.

[-] 1 points by CTabc123 (0) 13 years ago

necessary. way to answer the question...

[-] 0 points by smartguy (180) 13 years ago

come at me bro!!